Deadpool
Grandmaster
You get dumber with every post. And that's coming from me.
So much for champ spawns being fixed.
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You get dumber with every post. And that's coming from me.
If he is dumb enough to believe glen coco, then he deserves to be on eqms.
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VFingerDiscount
Grandmaster
I think the main issue and reason that people get so upset is that the red raiders literally do nothing to make progress toward spawning the champ and when all pets and players are engaged on mobs then they gate in and make easy kills.
The mechanics of running a champ with tamers makes it impossible to fend off an organized attack as pets stay engaged on mobs when you're being attacked and if you do manage to get them to aggro onto the attackers then the mobs automatically aggro on to you.
There is a player driven solution and it worked effectively against raids but that group plays here less and less unfortunately. This has led to a return to complaining about the situation.
I totally agree champ bosses should be unlurable (not a word) as they are guarding THEIR territory if you want to get nerdy about it.
The reds raiding, well, we need more volunteers to "guard" the less PvP inclined in our respective guilds to be totally honest. The problem is most are not willing or wired to play in that manner.
So, here we are.
Please fix the champs and make them remain in their area.
We'll work on recruiting and working out a good solution to the red "problem".
@eppy @Shane @Adam
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The mechanics of running a champ with tamers makes it impossible to fend off an organized attack as pets stay engaged on mobs when you're being attacked and if you do manage to get them to aggro onto the attackers then the mobs automatically aggro on to you.
There is a player driven solution and it worked effectively against raids but that group plays here less and less unfortunately. This has led to a return to complaining about the situation.
I totally agree champ bosses should be unlurable (not a word) as they are guarding THEIR territory if you want to get nerdy about it.
The reds raiding, well, we need more volunteers to "guard" the less PvP inclined in our respective guilds to be totally honest. The problem is most are not willing or wired to play in that manner.
So, here we are.
Please fix the champs and make them remain in their area.
We'll work on recruiting and working out a good solution to the red "problem".
@eppy @Shane @Adam
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@Shane. Make group play more rewarding. If you are partyd up, you have a higher chance at relics and drops. I think there are people who don't even know what that red button next to a name does in a party. Only allow this for blues. This means, those specifically defending against red actually have a chance at relic drops, if not more % for killing reds... That would be cool, rewarding for protection.
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Bromista
Grandmaster
Sounds rad, but how bout some consistency between champ behavior first?
Would literally put an end to this discussion and every discussion on the subject now and forever more.
Would literally put an end to this discussion and every discussion on the subject now and forever more.
Had to google that one.
Yup. All champs need to behave like the rat champ.
Bromista
Grandmaster
Sweet, sweet validation.
Bromista
Grandmaster
I think a good explanation of what has happened here on UOF is as follows:
Champ spawns are introduced and don't exactly behave properly. I.e. Barracoon didn't turn people into rats and had an easy spawn progression so it became to go-to champ for literally the entire server.
As such, players abused luring him when they raided. Specifically POWER, who used to beat on their chest constantly about fighting against uneven odds and being so superior to everyone else despite the fact that they routinely cheated and broke rules to even those odds (boss luring, automated PvP, auto looting, kegging, the list goes on and on and on...but that's neither here nor there)
Barracoon was made to rubber-band back to the altar (rightly so)
Barracoon boss and spawn was made more difficult (rightly so)
And now you have a situation where people have more frequently been doing, and thus luring, other champ bosses that were not made to rubber-band at the time Barracoon was.
This is why you are seeing more and more threads and discussions about luring as time goes on.
Looks like this will be a thing of the past though. Finally. Thanks to all who had a part in making consistency happen instead of just laying down and taking it.
Champ spawns are introduced and don't exactly behave properly. I.e. Barracoon didn't turn people into rats and had an easy spawn progression so it became to go-to champ for literally the entire server.
As such, players abused luring him when they raided. Specifically POWER, who used to beat on their chest constantly about fighting against uneven odds and being so superior to everyone else despite the fact that they routinely cheated and broke rules to even those odds (boss luring, automated PvP, auto looting, kegging, the list goes on and on and on...but that's neither here nor there)
Barracoon was made to rubber-band back to the altar (rightly so)
Barracoon boss and spawn was made more difficult (rightly so)
And now you have a situation where people have more frequently been doing, and thus luring, other champ bosses that were not made to rubber-band at the time Barracoon was.
This is why you are seeing more and more threads and discussions about luring as time goes on.
Looks like this will be a thing of the past though. Finally. Thanks to all who had a part in making consistency happen instead of just laying down and taking it.
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Tantreghan
Grandmaster
We do. If you have not read read my previous posts or vfingers I ask that you do. We do communicate. We do try. But again I will say, the pvmers who have spent allot of time to get to the boss are engaged in big heavy spawn, while trying to pvp, stop lureing watch for thieves etc.
They have enough on their plate and deserve a fair chance. Showing up last min to steal a boss and reap the hard work of others already trying to control so much, allot of which they don't play that aspect of the game (pvp) is not fair.
They say we cry. We are not. We can say the same thing back. They cry because it's harder for them to steal the hard work of others already engaged in the game for relics and ps's etc rather than have to work for it like the pvmers have been doing for a hour or more by lureing it off.
Leave the boss in the champ area so the pvmers can have a chance at their labour and so the Reds ect have to actually pvp for the work of others. They should still have a good chance since that is what they are good at and the pvmers are not, especially when they are chest deep in spawn and most likely low on regs, life etc.
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Tantreghan
Grandmaster
They still get to murder. Lureing does not encourage murdering or pvp. It's only a way to get what the pvmers have worked for, for so long. People can still murder, pvp, steal etc but in the champ area. There is nothing trammel about it. Realistically it encourages pvp and helps the pvmers at the same time.
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Yoko Kurama
Master
All the blind EQMS hate, My post couldn't have been any nicer. Besides, I knew you in game for a while, use to be in the same guild, and you fucking loved me, so don't act like I am some asshole. And my post was as nice as could be. Again, EQMS being nothing but classy, and the rest of the server being the shook ones; all fake, with lack of character.
Why is this thread even turned to beingabout EQMS? I know for a fact we rarely if ever do this. Yet Werkt does it constantly...Why can't people at least know wtf they are talking about? AGAIN WE DONT DRAG CHAMPS AWAY! It has happened I am sure, but this isn't something we do almost ever. If you want to make a post about us coming and killing you, that is fine...but don't accuse of something that We Got Werkt does ALL THE TIME.
Tantreghan
Grandmaster
No one cares about your post. Your the only one preaching eqms bullshit in a strictly champ thread. No one cares about and no one has responded to you except Cinni. And she didn't accuse you of anything. Now facking go away. You are making yourself stupider (or was it dumber? Don't matter it's the same) with every post In this thread and multiple others...,now back to champ discussion...
Everyone is discussing champs here.
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Bromista
Grandmaster
EQMS is the only guild. Period. Every post is about them, be it directly or indirectly.
Clearly you just don't know what you are talking about or are too #affected to realize.
Clearly you just don't know what you are talking about or are too #affected to realize.
Cinder
Master
This is not about EQMS or any zerg guild or pvp . It is about champ spawns, and that I don't think the boss should be lured. 
I love many players in this game. In lots of different guilds!!
There is no one who has ever asked me for help, that I have not helped.
I don't hate!
The comment about just when I start liking you guys was sincere.
I do have lots of friends in EQMS.
I don't judge them or their choice of game play. Games are for fun.
My comment was made in humor... while I was reading the new post on this thread , and doing abyss champ.. guess who showed up and Zerged us last night!!!!
Wait for it.. Waiiittt for it.. YES! It was EQMS.. LOL.. The humor was that , IT WAS TO EARLY FOR THEM TO BE GANKING!!! LOL
Have fun.. happy hunts..
I love many players in this game. In lots of different guilds!!
There is no one who has ever asked me for help, that I have not helped.
I don't hate!
The comment about just when I start liking you guys was sincere.
I do have lots of friends in EQMS.
I don't judge them or their choice of game play. Games are for fun.
My comment was made in humor... while I was reading the new post on this thread , and doing abyss champ.. guess who showed up and Zerged us last night!!!!
Wait for it.. Waiiittt for it.. YES! It was EQMS.. LOL.. The humor was that , IT WAS TO EARLY FOR THEM TO BE GANKING!!! LOL
Have fun.. happy hunts..
Cinder
Master
OOOOOoooOOOO .. and I never said you guys drag the boss away. Not that I know of.. You guys just wait untill the boss is up and JUMP IN AND KILL EVERY ONE, then kill the boss.. lol
Again.. I have nothing against EQMS... no more then, or less then I do against any other guild who comes in and PKS tamers to steal their prizes!
That was my other complaint. This one is about the boss getting LURED off after we get ganked and killed..
It's a girl thing.. we like to complain!!
But I do love this game and the goofy players in it! <3
Again.. I have nothing against EQMS... no more then, or less then I do against any other guild who comes in and PKS tamers to steal their prizes!
That was my other complaint. This one is about the boss getting LURED off after we get ganked and killed..
It's a girl thing.. we like to complain!!
But I do love this game and the goofy players in it! <3