Increase difficulty and spawn chance of (most) paragons

kurtis

Grandmaster
One of the things I enjoyed most about the Christmas mobs was that they were tough. It was more challenging to kill them and it provided much more XP. I had fun fighting them. All of a sudden it made sense to roam places like the upper levels of Shame, even though by pure loot standards it wasn't as profitable as spots with higher tier mobs. And then, to top it off, there were regular paragons and Christmas mobs to fight. It was good times. I didn't even care about the chance for xmas loot.

It got me to thinking. With metas now very prominent, and the crazy slayer weapons and armor that we've all accumulated, we've passed up the current difficulty of most paragons. Things like balrons, wyrms, maybe even dragons would be an exception, and I think those should be left alone since they are tough enough as is. But it would be great to see a drastic increase in the difficulty of most paragons, especially the lower tier ones. And with it, maybe the same % increase in gold drop, so it makes a little more sense from a gold standpoint.

To accompany that, it would be nice to see a slight increase in paragon spawn rate, so that they spawn more often. This way, people are incentivized to farm out spawns that would otherwise be left alone, as opposed to just killing a stray paragon and moving on. This is essentially what happened during the christmas mob phase. People were farming all sorts of previously ignored areas. It felt like UO. The drop rate of paragon chests should be decreased so that the overall effective drop rate stays the same (it's fine as is).

I think the result is a lot more fun for everyone. PvMers would start going to spots that don't get much attention. Seeing any paragon would be a treat. This also means that PK's actually have to roam dungeons rather than just recall into the same spots, which is more fun.

TLDR:
  • Increase difficulty of most paragons
  • Increase spawn chance of most paragons
  • Increase gold drop of most paragons
  • Decrease paragon chest drop rate to match the above increases
 

Trojandrew

Grandmaster
if anything increase the difficulty for the higher end ones not the lower ones. you don't see new players facing a paragon drake with a meta. Its all end gamers with resources that can take out these upper tier stuff. Increasing spawn rate by itself would make it more difficult without raising the cap for new players to even start attempting low paragons.

side note: i would love to see normal animals become paragon. Bull Paragon harder to kill 10x the leather on cut. Magpie Paragon w/ fire breath and 10x the feathers. just to shake things up a bit :p
 

diminished

Grandmaster
I'm not sure on the spawn rate of paragons. Maybe I just got lucky but I was doing the meta Dexxer quest yesterday at abyss and within 25 of 100 kills I had the whole pathway full of paragon daemons with 2/4 being paragon at fire temple. Is paragon chance the same for all mobs?
 

Lightfoot

Expert
Paragons are perfect the way they are, any stronger and it would negatively impact other players.
I wouldn't say they are perfect, considering how people go insane and literally lose their shit when even a mongbat paragon spawns, and considering how poor the loot table is along with the chests, I think they should make the paragons actually worth killing. Maybe add a skill scroll to every paragon? increase the drop rare of chests and gold, and increase the stuff inside the chests. Even lvl 6 paragon chests like titans have very little for the effort and rarity. Would be great to have a real and tangible incentive other than a "chance" at a statue with almost no value because of a flooded market, or the mythical "rare" in the paragon chest that seems most people never even heard of or knew about.

I think the xmas thing was great, except the loot tables...it would be nice to have more events with super beefed up mobs like xmas, but better loot table. And I agree with the guy above, the dragons and stuff 1 shotting across the map is dumb...make a cap on fire breath against players!
 

Mango

Grandmaster
I think some paragons can be pretty darn tuff as-is if you're not a tamer or dexxer with a high level talisman

Personally I'd like to see Meta-dragons nerfed :p
 

Afro Man

Grandmaster
I think some paragons can be pretty darn tuff as-is if you're not a tamer or dexxer with a high level talisman

Personally I'd like to see Meta-dragons nerfed :p
So many people would cry and quit if you nerfed there 40 million gold meta pets I mean common they gotta farm back that 40mil haha
 

PaperTiger

Journeyman
I hate paragons on my PVM'r
The loot is shit, I skip all paragon 9/10 times.
1 Paragon takes up more time than killing 4 of the non paragon version and half the loot.
Thumbs Down!
 

Trojandrew

Grandmaster
, the dragons and stuff 1 shotting across the map is dumb..
the higher end xmas mobs should be able to do that if you are quick enough to provo or get a pet on them, its the lower ones like an xmas drake that can fireball for 100 dmg that was way over powered


I still want normal animals to become paragon just to freak people out tho
 

Afro Man

Grandmaster
Am I the only one that plays for fun, not gold?
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