WTS Exceptional Frostwood Bows

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TheFallen

Grandmaster
Actually each special wood type has a chance to get special properties but if you craft one using a special wood and don't roll any attributes it is no better than any other normal wood exceptionally crafted bow. (Just better looking).
 
Leewald7

Leewald7

Grandmaster
Funny cuz the testing says otherwise.

My testing with heavies has been than they actually get the additional dmg for being of a better wood. Look on my post for test results.

But Bows u are right, havent noticed any real difference. I think the reason is cuz the wood adds a percent of dmg to the max and since bows are low dmg it doesnt effect them really.

So your saying my frost wood heavy is the best on the server? How come we are yielding a ton more frost exceptional or magic then blood? You would think the better wood would have a lower chance of yielding the best equipment.




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Leewald7

Leewald7

Grandmaster
Plus my testing shows blood doing the same if not more dmg than the frost heavy when comparing exceptionals.


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Eternal Dragon

Eternal Dragon

Master
Err, look im pretty darn sure.

Could be wrong. But better wood has a better chance of yielding magic results. This is all info ive read from other forums and players mind you. Not my personal conclusion over a short term stint or anything.

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Eternal Dragon

Eternal Dragon

Master
Frost wood is also the hardest to collect, insinuating its rarity over blood. I would assume that means it is the highest tier?

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Leewald7

Leewald7

Grandmaster
Its weird though in the past week weve dont 3 vanq frostwoods but no blood. :/


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Eternal Dragon

Eternal Dragon

Master
Well not on my side. I cannot understand why the highest tier wood would yeild less. Frostwood is also the only wood to yield the vanq modifier. It also requires 116 to chop, where blood is 115.

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T

TheFallen

Grandmaster
Wow lot of misinformation.

Wood type does not change damage unless the item rolls modifiers.

Frost is the highest level.

Blood can also yield vanq weapons.

PS. You would need to take 1000's of shots to test the damage difinitivly and be repairing between each shot.
 
Leewald7

Leewald7

Grandmaster
Thats i think where my confusion on the best part is cuz I've seen vanqs in both blood and frost and we're having much better luck at getting frost than blood.

Regardless of how many shots you say. I did 50 shots on each regular, heart, blood and frost (all exceptional heavies and bows) And documented the highest and lowest dmg if each. I then compared it to force, power and vanq regular magics and ran the same tests. (All started fully repaired or new off the line)

I was only able to get a 95 out of the vanq and a 90 out of frost and blood exceptional heavies.

Whereas the force regular heavy couldn't yield a number that high for dmg no matter how many shots i fired. I retested even.

So the exceptional blood and frost out did the dmg for a force regular magic heavy.

But you said no dmg increase from wood type?

The heart also proved to deal similar dmg to a force or power.

So i doubt it was a fluke. I even tested against a control, a normal wood, exceptional, heavy.

The bows however showed no change in dmg. Again i believe due to a percentage raise to dmg and since bows are less dmg, the same percentage doesnt go nearly as far.


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BEN!

BEN!

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Leewald7 said:
Thats i think where my confusion on the best part is cuz I've seen vanqs in both blood and frost and we're having much better luck at getting frost than blood.

Regardless of how many shots you say. I did 50 shots on each regular, heart, blood and frost (all exceptional heavies and bows) And documented the highest and lowest dmg if each. I then compared it to force, power and vanq regular magics and ran the same tests. (All started fully repaired or new off the line)

I was only able to get a 95 out of the vanq and a 90 out of frost and blood exceptional heavies.

Whereas the force regular heavy couldn't yield a number that high for dmg no matter how many shots i fired. I retested even.

So the exceptional blood and frost out did the dmg for a force regular magic heavy.

But you said no dmg increase from wood type?

The heart also proved to deal similar dmg to a force or power.

So i doubt it was a fluke. I even tested against a control, a normal wood, exceptional, heavy.

The bows however showed no change in dmg. Again i believe due to a percentage raise to dmg and since bows are less dmg, the same percentage doesnt go nearly as far.


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why are you testing an exceptional frostwood to a force bow, should be testing vs a normal exceptional bow. and 50 shots is extremely low divided by all the different types you tested... also did you even think to arms lore these weapons first and make sure they were all even? Pretty sure if you do a decent test you will find that the damages are the same (doesn't make any sense if they are coded differently)

ps heavy xbows are the highest damage so that last sentence is some very flawed logic... are you trolling us so your buddy can make a killing in the 800 gp bow market?
 
Leewald7

Leewald7

Grandmaster
Haha wow you so confused i think you confused yourself plz reread post more thoroughly next time so your not some sounding like a dummy. [emoji1]


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Young Star

Young Star

Grandmaster
BEN! said:
ps heavy xbows are the highest damage so that last sentence is some very flawed logic... are you trolling us so your buddy can make a killing in the 800 gp bow market?
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He is saying that when using a weapon hypothetically with something 40hp base damage and say a 20% exc bonus it yields a more visible bonus over a weapon with 20hp base damage with the same 20% bonus. 40hp+20%= 8hp bonus and 20hp+20%= 4hp bonus.

As for the testing, 50 shots is too small of a sample size. I think its like 4-6% chance to hit for the max. I thought @eppy said that the wood type doesn't matter, an exceptional bow is the same no matter the wood. He could be mistaken though or I misinterpreted what he said before. If you do more testing with a larger sample size I would be curious to know the results.
 
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