empty plots

Bromista

Grandmaster
Well you can't really have an empty plot for
We could probably fix this pretty quickly. It would upset a butt load of people however.

My idea was just make dirt plots decay at rapid speed, 2 days etc.
Or get someone on the team that strictly just looks for house plots that are innactive for a long time and we will just remove them.
I was next going to suggest that a team member dedicated to the project would be the best way to go tbh. That way it's not a burden on current staff that has other matters to attend to.

It really has to be a staff discretion sort of thing because an automated system is going to just cause tears. Add a human touch to it and I think you're going to have less people that are upset if they suddenly find themselves homeless.
 

MANKRIK

Grandmaster
Go around for a few hours to populated housing areas and note down the coords of all the empty plots. Come back a few months later and if they are still there and empty delete them. If there is some official policy like "you must spend x amount of gold on your house otherwise the timer will speed up" then people will circumvent that by placing random crap and just carry on as usual, so it needs to be a GM decision.
 

Young Star

Grandmaster
Doesn't take a dedicated person. Every other month just take a day to mark houses. Any house marked twice will get a notice of being condemned and will decay unless owner pages in.


I was saying that jus having some minimum custom tiles would at least make things look better. Then you still have the quick decay for houses that go greatly 2 times within the time span at least as small as the span it takes for a house to go greatly, get refreshed, and go greatly again. The time span could be as long as 6 months too. If that happens the owner has a week to get the house repaired buying a repair deed from a carpenter. Deeds decay in 24 hours.
 

Afro Man

Grandmaster
How does one get an ageless house?
Ageless plots and houses are gained from raffles most of the time......Aka just spend all the real $ you have in life to buy dono's and then you may win prob not........ Unless your name is duckface
 

RAVE GL

Master
We could probably fix this pretty quickly. It would upset a butt load of people however.

My idea was just make dirt plots decay at rapid speed, 2 days etc.
Or get someone on the team that strictly just looks for house plots that are innactive for a long time and we will just remove them.

This. and just do it randomly without any announcement so some random wandering newbie has a chance to place. Love it. Hit that shit hard.
 

RAVE GL

Master
Well you can't really have an empty plot for

I was next going to suggest that a team member dedicated to the project would be the best way to go tbh. That way it's not a burden on current staff that has other matters to attend to.

It really has to be a staff discretion sort of thing because an automated system is going to just cause tears. Add a human touch to it and I think you're going to have less people that are upset if they suddenly find themselves homeless.

you know, they wouldn't have anything to cry about if the value of the plot was returned to their bank account... walking across the lands makes me curse under my breath with all the wasted plots doing nothing.

Garet Jax fuckin troll.
 

Afro Man

Grandmaster
you know, they wouldn't have anything to cry about if the value of the plot was returned to their bank account... walking across the lands makes me curse under my breath with all the wasted plots doing nothing.

Garet Jax fuckin troll.
I fully agree
 

halygon

Grandmaster
you know, they wouldn't have anything to cry about if the value of the plot was returned to their bank account...
Not sure if this is true. What if you had empty plots because you were trying to hold down land to expand your house plot? I am not sure that just because a plot is empty, it is a reason to drop it for someone else. Not all dirt plots are problematic.
 

Bromista

Grandmaster
you know, they wouldn't have anything to cry about if the value of the plot was returned to their bank account... walking across the lands makes me curse under my breath with all the wasted plots doing nothing.

Garet Jax fuckin troll.
Hrmm. Yes and no.

For probly 97% of plots this is likely true. But the small % of property with a value greater than the sum of its parts because of the location...that would certainly be an issue.

Now granted, not many desirable plots are still bare. So are we talking about house refreshing in general, even of designed plots, or just bare plots?

I think this goes beyond bare plots, personally. I say any house could or should be targeted. Staff can re-hue the damn house or put a sign in the ground out front saying that the house is in danger of repossession or something. OR upon the refresh, if house sign is clicked or door opens a GUMP pops up. At that point a house has 3 months to be refreshed by the owner ONLY or it becomes a bare plot. Then another 3 months before that plot gets erased.

I think those time-frames would be suitable. Thoughts?

Oh and all ageless houses need to be reverted. I have a friend in the Air Force who had a player ***** and page-in about his VILLA, yes a VILLA in a not at all special location, and it was changed from ageless back to regular.

That is fucking weak shit. Do it to all plots.
 

girana

Grandmaster
Not sure if this is true. What if you had empty plots because you were trying to hold down land to expand your house plot? I am not sure that just because a plot is empty, it is a reason to drop it for someone else. Not all dirt plots are problematic.

yes only the empty plots and houses on accounts with like 2-3 chars with just buy up skills that never get played and the plot/house only gets refresht by friend/co owner are problematic.
 

RAVE GL

Master
Not sure if this is true. What if you had empty plots because you were trying to hold down land to expand your house plot? I am not sure that just because a plot is empty, it is a reason to drop it for someone else. Not all dirt plots are problematic.

Sure, I can agree with that! Is there a method to identify how many times a property has been refreshed in a 30/60/90 day period? Those would be easiest to identify if they get 1 visit every few weeks.

Take this one plot I've been eyeing for 3 months now, guy refreshes and walks away. It's gone greatly at least twice since I've been watching it. I want to buy it. The guy isn't around and there isn't a messaging system for me to leave him or her a note. Plot just sits there.

I had ran into him a while back but forgot the name, remember him saying he got the plot in an idoc and had no plans for it. ... sooooo... wtf is the point? Just keeping it so others can't have it?
 

Young Star

Grandmaster
Not sure if this is true. What if you had empty plots because you were trying to hold down land to expand your house plot? I am not sure that just because a plot is empty, it is a reason to drop it for someone else. Not all dirt plots are problematic.
So if someone is trying to secure a larger area with some small plots they will just have to deal with refreshing more often or at least invest some money into building something on it to get a regular decay rate.
 

RAVE GL

Master
So if someone is trying to secure a larger area with some small plots they will just have to deal with refreshing more often or at least invest some money into building something on it to get a regular decay rate.

that brings about another point... the server mantra has been to facilitate player interaction and several initiatives exist to promote that... yet we have castles and 30x30's for 1 person. lol.

If that super large plot is for some greater good, then sure, why not?
Take a look at booty island. the expansion island. You could almost consider it a fail because the plots all went to existing player base and most of those plots are just held. no building on them and in turn, nobody running around on the island. It sucks. It's a problem. A complex one at that. I don't envy the staff that has to consider problems like this.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
So if someone is trying to secure a larger area with some small plots they will just have to deal with refreshing more often or at least invest some money into building something on it to get a regular decay rate.
I think in many places, built houses are just as much problem as empty plots. The difference is that you see an empty plot and think that it is not used - a built house can be just as unused and empty as a empty plot.
 

girana

Grandmaster
I think in many places, built houses are just as much problem as empty plots. The difference is that you see an empty plot and think that it is not used - a built house can be just as unused and empty as a empty plot.


yes all ppl doing idocs are knowing TONS of house that never changed any thing inside and being fearly/greatly all 3-4 weeks for years
 

RAVE GL

Master
WTB a nice spot that would double as a dock to launch alliance sea adventures from.
How much dono do I need to buy to make that a reality?
 
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