"Your fingers slip"

Amorpho

Expert
Hi guys,

I notice that when I'm in the heat of battle I fail to heal by bandages and a message comes "Your fingers slip".
I know that comes up when you are not healing GM. But it seems to me that it happens a lot when I'm being hit. Is that what it is? Do bandages get applied succesfully only when I'm not being hit by anything?
 

omnom

Grandmaster
They will still be applied, just at reduced effectiveness and after a longer delay
 

Amorpho

Expert
So they get applied even if the message "your fingers slip" comes up? Should I wait or just apply it again? Also, what kind of delay are we talking about? Is poison cured 100% of the cases at GM?
 

Dellan

Grandmaster
Your fingers slip when you get hit, it only lowers the amount of dmg you heal in the end, up to 0. From my recent tests - delay depends on dex - 14s on 25d, 13s on 40d, 12 on 50, 11 on 65, 10 from 85. Poison is cured 100% on healing 90, you need 60 anat to be able to heal poison - tried with rotten corpse, healed poison 3 times in a row with 90 healing 60 anat, so healing is the deciding factor in curing poison, not anat.

Also, from 80/80 heal/anat you can ress ghosts. Seems like you never fail bandie at 90 healing, remaining 10 points decide success in ressing - and add to amount of hp healed.
 

Amorpho

Expert
Your fingers slip when you get hit, it only lowers the amount of dmg you heal in the end, up to 0. From my recent tests - delay depends on dex - 14s on 25d, 13s on 40d, 12 on 50, 11 on 65, 10 from 85. Poison is cured 100% on healing 90, you need 60 anat to be able to heal poison - tried with rotten corpse, healed poison 3 times in a row with 90 healing 60 anat, so healing is the deciding factor in curing poison, not anat.

Also, from 80/80 heal/anat you can ress ghosts. Seems like you never fail bandie at 90 healing, remaining 10 points decide success in ressing - and add to amount of hp healed.
Very helpful. Thanks a lot! :D
 

Dellan

Grandmaster
Naaah, impossible.. it stays 10secs. If you use razor, there is bandage timer you can add to display counter, that tells you time your bandie runs right now. I did some solid healing here and never gone under 10..
 

Amorpho

Expert
That's weird. I macroed healing by applying bandages to ghost. I made macro with 8 sec between one bandaging and another and the two never overlapped. Maybe it's faster when trying to rest someone?
 

halygon

Grandmaster
That's weird. I macroed healing by applying bandages to ghost. I made macro with 8 sec between one bandaging and another and the two never overlapped. Maybe it's faster when trying to rest someone?
There are three different healing times.
1. When you heal yourself
2. When you heal another player
3. When you res another player
 

Dellan

Grandmaster
Heal yourself - depends on dex
Heal another - 5 secs
Ress player - 10 secs

Also noticed a difference when you cure poison on yourself and heal.. on 65 dex it takes 11 secs to heal yourself and 14 to cure poison.. I believe it's 10/10 on 85 or 100 dex.
 

Geriatric

Expert
with your fingers slipping even at GM heal and GM anatomy you can still fail to apply the bandages
if your being hit alot
happened with me when i was being hit by about 8 lizardmen at once
 

Luxvero

Journeyman
like amorpho said, i think 100dex gm healing/anatomy is goes even quickier, using the bandage-timer form uosteam it took 4s healing others


ps, i might have been under agitily pot, gonna recheck this, but still 120dex = 4s then?
 

Dellan

Grandmaster
120 dex doesn't affect speed of heals as far as I know.. certainly not healing yourself, others, mmmmm.. requires science. However I doubt it, since timer for healing others and ressing them is same, no matter what dex you have.
 

edw3rdwood

Grandmaster
Every time you see that message "your fingers slip!", you will still heal with the current bandage but the amount gets reduced every time you are hit. Which means for the ideal bandage, you would run away a distance and let the timer ring out without getting hit at all.

If you heal another player/an NPC, the timer is drastically shorter than if you are healing yourself. This is to encourage cooperation and teamwork with players; ie, two dexxers healing each other will be much more effective than two dexxers each working independently and healing themselves.
 
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