Lord_Puffy
Grandmaster
I agree completely level playing field.
And I do know of one instance that ONE player used one of these books to his advantage on multiple events/bosses and it did effect the outcome because 9/10 that player was top score.
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I agree completely level playing field.
And I do know of one instance that ONE player used one of these books to his advantage on multiple events/bosses and it did effect the outcome because 9/10 that player was top score.
Lord_Puffy
Grandmaster
Is there a difference in the demon at level 10 versus level 1?
halv
Grandmaster
Huge difference. A level 10 can tank almost every high tier mob like AWs, ALs, OLs even in paragon version pretty long.
Lord_Puffy
Grandmaster
Anyone know the max raw numbers from 1-10,
I see that its 1.0 - 35.0 for stats and 1.0 - 20.0 for skills, but not sure what it equals out too. @TheFallen @Ariakan99 HELP! haha
Score is not that much factor to getting drops afaik. Btw imagine what if as reward for Greater Giants(Vesper) invasion Cino Uma and me getting 3 brand new "all slayer" books, it will be much more "worse" ^_^
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
It was definitely a factor when the top 10 at an event were given a special reward. Not to mention, if you kill 20% faster than anyone else, then you are getting 20% more opportunities for the random drop rewards. How could you say it's not much of a factor? Even the champ / RDA score based, are weighted lottery, so if you are #1 at every champ, then you have a better chance at a reward.
I'm not saying that the 4 Blessed All Slayer spellbooks have broke the mage class - because it's ludicrous to think they have, but they definitely give an advantage, and staff has definitely quoted them many times when asked about making the mage class more competitive.
I'm not saying that the 4 Blessed All Slayer spellbooks have broke the mage class - because it's ludicrous to think they have, but they definitely give an advantage, and staff has definitely quoted them many times when asked about making the mage class more competitive.
Lexington
Grandmaster
The thread was about Vivify changes, and why all of you went that #offtopic?
@Lexington just give me one of your books for couple weeks, and read nice topics/http://discord.uoforever.com chats after haha
P.S. Cino summon you, you need to ask to buff mages, all of it because of you xD
Here is the ironic thing. When I received these books most that even noticed laughed and called them deco as they were useless they said. Now those same players are saying they worst mistake ever LOL. There are lots of blessed slayer books in the games. Sure mine might be a bit unique but they weren't the first and sure as hell aren't the huge advantage you all think they are. There are a few that will out soccer me lots (as a mage) at any of the champs and bosses. It's got to do with how you play the mage and manage dispersion than the book you're carrying.
This is for all of you... If the mage talisman is really being held back because of all blessed slayer books you've got no one to blame but your damn selves for constantly whining about it! I come in these thread to try and help support your cause (not for me but for you!) and you keep twisting it to this stupid jealous rant.
Good luck Cups. I'm done trying to help.
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
[QUOTE="Lexington, post: 773132, member: 892"It's got to do with how you play the mage and manage dispersion than the book you're carrying.[/QUOTE]
You've mentioned this a couple of times now, and I wanted to call this out. This is an important point - the reality is for the mage class to be competitive at champs, it has to be the right champ, and it has to be played right. The mage excels at early levels, using FS to proc your dispersion, and shadow discipline, and then managing inventory so that when your cooldowns are up, you can do it again. FS does huge damage, and when it all proc's right, with slayer spell books, you get the biggest mana returns. The mage isn't making it's points on level 4 or the boss.
I still believe the mage class for me is the funnest of the classes, and where I believe the mage falls short is the down time when farming solo mobs. Which is why I'd love to see a mana recovery fix for the focus, instead of the piddly amount of damage increase it gives. Less down time, would just be more fun over all in my eyes. With that said, it gives a lot of flexibility, and safety that a berzerker or rogue class just doesn't.
You've mentioned this a couple of times now, and I wanted to call this out. This is an important point - the reality is for the mage class to be competitive at champs, it has to be the right champ, and it has to be played right. The mage excels at early levels, using FS to proc your dispersion, and shadow discipline, and then managing inventory so that when your cooldowns are up, you can do it again. FS does huge damage, and when it all proc's right, with slayer spell books, you get the biggest mana returns. The mage isn't making it's points on level 4 or the boss.
I still believe the mage class for me is the funnest of the classes, and where I believe the mage falls short is the down time when farming solo mobs. Which is why I'd love to see a mana recovery fix for the focus, instead of the piddly amount of damage increase it gives. Less down time, would just be more fun over all in my eyes. With that said, it gives a lot of flexibility, and safety that a berzerker or rogue class just doesn't.
halv
Grandmaster
Lexington
Grandmaster
do they get harder and harder to dispel as they gain levels? even at lvl 5 my vivify demon gets constantly dispelled it feels like
yes the do
Pic of a level 10
Lord_Puffy
Grandmaster
Minoson is a level 1 Vivify Daemon.
Surgat is a level 9 Vivify Daemon:
yes the do
Pic of a level 10
Thanks guy I was just curious but after seeing these pics, I should prob finish the last 2 levels
lollo
Grandmaster
come on lol, it's just fucking regs (once you have a blessed slayer)
lollo
Grandmaster
a blessed slayer book (not the all slayer, the "normal" ones like respond, silver etc) costs less than a meta steed. You can probably buy 3-4 of those for the price of a spider. You just gotta have the gold when they go for sale
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
To be fair though, reg costs don't ever go away, they aren't fixed, they are a constant. If you play that meta mage constantly, you burn through a ton of regs, a death doesn't cost much, but they are a constant price of playing the class.
lollo
Grandmaster
Yeah but who cares, in this game you can make 100k in one hour, that buys you regs for a month of playing a meta mage
AreYouKidden
Grandmaster
That'll only buy me 12k of each reg, which will only last a week of my gameplay - and after a year of playing when you realize you've spent 5.2 million in reagents you start to realize that's a good chunk of gold you'd like to have back, over 4 years, it's a taming scroll!!
*rerolls a low cost dexxer*
*rerolls a low cost dexxer*
lollo
Grandmaster
That'll only buy me 12k of each reg, which will only last a week of my gameplay - and after a year of playing when you realize you've spent 5.2 million in reagents you start to realize that's a good chunk of gold you'd like to have back, over 4 years, it's a taming scroll!!
*rerolls a low cost dexxer*
I think that good slayer weapons and armor (not to mention pots) still cost more than that