Useless Skills??

gadric

Expert
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OH <HAHAH> I have not laughed that hard in ages... *wipes tears from eyes* ...

There was a thread about trammel, this IS trammel at its finest.. All you crafters who spend all your dying time chopping trees, mining rocks and crafting mighty fine pixelated versions of weapons and armour, I salute you for your ever growing moaning, whining and other dramatics which has of course, worked out for the best for you *Obviously this does not apply to all, just the few who have complained*. I really am fucking happy for you... Now please, go do the world a favour and blow your brains out using a shotgun, because you will never be any good under crisis and most likely will save yourself before rescuing kids in a house fire..

What a complete and utter joke..


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The self entitlement is STRONG here, STRONGER than even the WILL of man and beast....

PS : This reminds me of the German people, who held their arms out wide to all the immigrants crossing into Germany, shouting others down who TOLD them it was a bad idea to allow so many into your country and then, all of a predictable sudden, New Years approaches and many women there were harassed and touched in a sexual way.

Don't ask me why it reminds me of potential changes to the crafting zone, it just does and my reasons for this are unknown, even to me.
So, according to you EVERYONE should be a fighter or mage or adventurer of some type?
Such a limited view you have...
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
So, according to you EVERYONE should be a fighter or mage or adventurer of some type?
Such a limited view you have...

According to me, players should stop being so incredibly self entitled when it comes to wanting items which, as we all know, are valuable and used quite a lot versus monsters which have the corresponding slayer type weakness, completely risk free. How on earth can you even consider your last post when I have very much attempted to champion the rights of other more peaceful classes on here? My point is pretty solid when it comes to the thief class, we have had SO many FUCKING changes and nerfs over the years because of idiots who can not, or will not accept the fact that the thief is a class, uses the stealing to skill to liberate items LEGALLY *if you can call it that* from other players and was pretty much a part of the game from day dot.

As for the limited view comment, I will forgive you for that because like anyone who has probably experienced the stresses of Ultima Online, I can only assume that you were one of those who complained. Do you have a shotgun handy?
 

EvilAcid

Grandmaster
A Pk that kills you, takes your most valuable items, leaves you with the rest and gives you a rez is normally considered a decent and fair pk.

A thief who takes your most valuable item, doesn't kill you, and can still be engaged, minus low or no fighting skills is usually despised.

just something to ponder.
 

gadric

Expert
According to me, players should stop being so incredibly self entitled when it comes to wanting items which, as we all know, are valuable and used quite a lot versus monsters which have the corresponding slayer type weakness, completely risk free. How on earth can you even consider your last post when I have very much attempted to champion the rights of other more peaceful classes on here? My point is pretty solid when it comes to the thief class, we have had SO many FUCKING changes and nerfs over the years because of idiots who can not, or will not accept the fact that the thief is a class, uses the stealing to skill to liberate items LEGALLY *if you can call it that* from other players and was pretty much a part of the game from day dot.

As for the limited view comment, I will forgive you for that because like anyone who has probably experienced the stresses of Ultima Online, I can only assume that you were one of those who complained. Do you have a shotgun handy?
What about Blacksmiths, Tailoring, Alchemy, bowyers? I do not deny that Thief is a valid class. I don't LIKE them but I acknowledge that they exist. My point however is that without the CRAFTERS the game would be much less interesting. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding there
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
What about Blacksmiths, Tailoring, Alchemy, bowyers? I do not deny that Thief is a valid class. I don't LIKE them but I acknowledge that they exist. My point however is that without the CRAFTERS the game would be much less interesting. Perhaps there was a misunderstanding there

No one at all is disputing the fact that crafter's are an essential part to the game, the dispute appears when crafter's require a completely safe place to craft items of great importance to the server, without a single consequence. UO has always been a game of risk, I feel that risk should be bumped up a notch where items which can literally turn you into a farming machine, can be crafted in mass. The same applies at champ spawns, rare spawns and rare monster spawns, if expensive items drop as loot or rare items spawn in the world, there should be risk associated and more risk if said item is worth considerably more. With that said, perhaps my point is a little more legible.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
They were about to make Brit Crafting area Safe Zone for example as someone was killing crafters with 3 characters there some time ago. So places to steal stuff get decreased.
I have never heard of this in staff chat discussions. I think it is a given that the crafter's area requires a risk for the rewards it gives. I think it is safe to assume that it will not be stealing free.

@Darkarna
 

drinn

Grandmaster
I have never heard of this in staff chat discussions. I think it is a given that the crafter's area requires a risk for the rewards it gives. I think it is safe to assume that it will not be stealing free.

@Darkarna

It was at IRC, if I remember right. Very slight chat about it lol, but people were complaining about some $ killing crafters at area by casting energy vortex etc. there.

Then someone from staff said something about making it Trammel. Could be at forums too maybe?
 

Darkarna

Grandmaster
I have never heard of this in staff chat discussions. I think it is a given that the crafter's area requires a risk for the rewards it gives. I think it is safe to assume that it will not be stealing free.

@Darkarna

And here I was, getting all pissy about a change that was never really discussed in the first place.. @drinn you should go stand in the corner and hang your head in shame.... *grumbles*
 
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