Sseany4209
Grandmaster
can anyone tell me how much skill is needed to join thieves guild??
Stealing, 0-GM: An Easy Graphical Razor Macro Guide
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Vince[Tharakus]
Grandmaster
it takes 20 hrs logged in on your thief. I believe that's the only requirement
Vince[Tharakus]
Grandmaster
Ironically...my first thief was off the Thieves Guildmaster...lolol.....oh the irony!..lol
wil3ur
Grandmaster
It's like rayeaaynaaan on your wedding day!
Derek Ridley
Neophyte
Do you make a lot of money / things with stealing???
MagicallyBad
Expert
It's a life of random opportunities, I think you do it for the thrill than the money. Lots of potential, but the reality is like 30 of some reagent or a crappy weapon they don't currently have equipped. There are rare cases where you might be able to sneak into a house or catch someone just buying something, or ninja loot a chest, but I would venture 90% of it is not that profitable.
SidX
Grandmaster
Yes absolutely, but it takes a lot of practice to learn how to survive. Stealing is only 10% of the battle, surviving is 90%. I have made a lot of gold selling stuff I stole in champ spawns and town invasions, stealing people's weps, SSs, power scrolls, etc. But those are the hardest places to survive for an unarmed thief with no attack method and virtually no way to heal other than potions.
More risk = more reward for sure. Stealing at banks is rarely profitable since 9 out of 10 people know not to carry anything valuable on them in public. But at champ spawns, etc., that's where the good stuff comes out with no guard zone.
One weapon can fetch 20-100k depending on the stats. Also SSs range in value from 500gp - 200k, and PSs can easily sell for 100k - 1mil+ depending on the PS.
Depends on your skills. If you're a naked dick that gets himself gwhacked for tambourine in town, then no. But if you're a classy professional who loves to THINK, then you can get very rich. No, scratch that. Richer than anyone. Sadly, my own ventures mostly suck, but I did missed my hand at Babethoven's pirate chest, worth 4-5 mil, just by fuckin' inch. My other comrades, however, play/played only thieves, nothin' else, and are obnoxiously stinking rich.. Their bankbox is usually empty, but amount of money stored in items they have easily exceeds 8 numbers.. that's more than 10 mils for you empty noggins. Playing a thief is completely different game than anything else in UO, from finding your own tricks to coming up with master plans, that's why I love it, it's very rare class where you can literally outsmart your opponent and defeat him, and you have to, because you can't defeat him any other way (unless you go thug's life). I don't farm, grew sick of it after a while, and since then, thief was my choice of life. Always wanted to play thief, even before when I first heard of UO back in 99 or so (sadly I had no connection or money for that), I am born to do that career, but guess what? Those thieves who are stinking rich are men who discovered their talents (thanks to me
) and never expected they would play as thief. Hopefully one of you's will become that rare breed, real thief (or pure thief as I call 'em), where you will live as a thief and not just count it as another char that you can grief with. Good luck to those who will become such a rare person, and may our paths cross soon.Hello, all! I saw that Sidx mentioned that you could get more complicated and make your macro add apples at the specified skill levels. So using UOSteam, I've done exactly that, I have some minor issues with it, but it doesn't affect skilling up in any way. I'm posting it here to see if anyone can fix the issues I'm having for future macroing, and possibly help others along the way. Thanks, and here's the code!
//This steals the backpack and finds the serial for the pouch with apples in it or "bag 2". Keep in mind, these are the serials for MY pouches, YOUR pouches and apples will have different serials.
useskill 'Stealing'
pause 600
waitfortarget 15000
target! 0x41af5c28
pause 600
//Lines 9-19 adds an apple to the pouch if your skill is higher than X5.5. For this to work properly, you will need to split your apples into multiple individual apples somewhere, and get the serial for each. Otherwise every time your macro loops it will add an apple, and that kind of defeats the purpose of adding this code. The code is formatted like this: moveitem {command} (serial for apple) (serial for the destination pouch) [(x y z)]{Location} [amount] The easiest way I've found to get this information is: I moved an apple into the pouch in the middle of the original macro, then put the if statement in front of it. You can copy and paste it every iteration of X5.5 you need untill GM. Just add the individual apple serials in the first serial spot. Also make sure to add endif at the end of each.
//
if skill 'stealing' > 75.5
moveitem 0x41b215dd 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
if skill 'stealing' > 85.5
moveitem 0x41b2157f 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
if skill 'stealing' > 95.5
moveitem 0x41b21668 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
// After you add the apple, you will receive an "error" saying item not found, but don't worry about this. It's the only way I've found to get around adding an apple every time the macro runs. Seeing as how I've played here for less than a week, and I'm unfamiliar with the syntax, Im definitely open to suggestions on how to remedy this!
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c27 'backpack' 138 86 0
//This moves "Bag 1" from the ground to your backpack.
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c28 0x41af5c27 65535 65535 0
//This moves "Bag 2" into "Bag 1"
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c27 'ground' 1619 1766 100
// This puts "Bag 1" with "Bag 2" on the ground to reset the decay timer.
pause 9000
// This code should fully automate your quest to GM stealing! The only issue I've ran into is server restarts, as it can't relog you in, and Im pretty sure thats against the rules anyways. Thanks for reading!!!
//This steals the backpack and finds the serial for the pouch with apples in it or "bag 2". Keep in mind, these are the serials for MY pouches, YOUR pouches and apples will have different serials.
useskill 'Stealing'
pause 600
waitfortarget 15000
target! 0x41af5c28
pause 600
//Lines 9-19 adds an apple to the pouch if your skill is higher than X5.5. For this to work properly, you will need to split your apples into multiple individual apples somewhere, and get the serial for each. Otherwise every time your macro loops it will add an apple, and that kind of defeats the purpose of adding this code. The code is formatted like this: moveitem {command} (serial for apple) (serial for the destination pouch) [(x y z)]{Location} [amount] The easiest way I've found to get this information is: I moved an apple into the pouch in the middle of the original macro, then put the if statement in front of it. You can copy and paste it every iteration of X5.5 you need untill GM. Just add the individual apple serials in the first serial spot. Also make sure to add endif at the end of each.
//
if skill 'stealing' > 75.5
moveitem 0x41b215dd 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
if skill 'stealing' > 85.5
moveitem 0x41b2157f 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
if skill 'stealing' > 95.5
moveitem 0x41b21668 0x41af5c28 65535 65535 0
endif
// After you add the apple, you will receive an "error" saying item not found, but don't worry about this. It's the only way I've found to get around adding an apple every time the macro runs. Seeing as how I've played here for less than a week, and I'm unfamiliar with the syntax, Im definitely open to suggestions on how to remedy this!
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c27 'backpack' 138 86 0
//This moves "Bag 1" from the ground to your backpack.
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c28 0x41af5c27 65535 65535 0
//This moves "Bag 2" into "Bag 1"
pause 600
moveitem 0x41af5c27 'ground' 1619 1766 100
// This puts "Bag 1" with "Bag 2" on the ground to reset the decay timer.
pause 9000
// This code should fully automate your quest to GM stealing! The only issue I've ran into is server restarts, as it can't relog you in, and Im pretty sure thats against the rules anyways. Thanks for reading!!!
Patrick Brennan
Master
Just my two cents.
Easiest way to GM Stealing for me was simply locking down a bag in my house. Inside the bag put a bag with 20 empty bottles inside.
Open bag with 20 empty bottles and use the steal skill on the stack of empty bottles. Then have a razor macro set up to organize empty bottles back into the bag with the original stack. Rinse and repeat using a razor macro.
The stealing skill will automatically attempt to steal the maximum amount of weight your skill can handle. Sometimes it'll steal less and sometimes none at all but it will steal the maximum amount as well.
GM'D Stealing in about 48 hours in my house without ever having to touch the computer other than to log back in if I was disconnected.
Don't bang your head against the wall adding and removing apples or whatever. Just get a stack of 20 empty bottles, stick them in a bag, stick that bag in another bag, lock down the bag containing the bottle bag in your house, use the steal skill on the stack of empty bottles, use a organizer macro in Razor to place back any stolen bottles back into the bottle bag, rinse and repeat using a razor macro. The time you have to wait between steal attempts is 10 seconds.
Easiest way to GM Stealing for me was simply locking down a bag in my house. Inside the bag put a bag with 20 empty bottles inside.
Open bag with 20 empty bottles and use the steal skill on the stack of empty bottles. Then have a razor macro set up to organize empty bottles back into the bag with the original stack. Rinse and repeat using a razor macro.
The stealing skill will automatically attempt to steal the maximum amount of weight your skill can handle. Sometimes it'll steal less and sometimes none at all but it will steal the maximum amount as well.
GM'D Stealing in about 48 hours in my house without ever having to touch the computer other than to log back in if I was disconnected.
Don't bang your head against the wall adding and removing apples or whatever. Just get a stack of 20 empty bottles, stick them in a bag, stick that bag in another bag, lock down the bag containing the bottle bag in your house, use the steal skill on the stack of empty bottles, use a organizer macro in Razor to place back any stolen bottles back into the bottle bag, rinse and repeat using a razor macro. The time you have to wait between steal attempts is 10 seconds.
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wil3ur
Grandmaster
While that is good, I seriously GM'd in an afternoon using the apple method...
Patrick Brennan
Master
FingersFinn
Grandmaster
I personally just used the apple method on a few different characters. I definitely like the other options though.
I may decide to scrap several characters and just make a bunch of thieves, with variations in skills of course. I just love thieves
I may decide to scrap several characters and just make a bunch of thieves, with variations in skills of course. I just love thieves
Weland
Grandmaster
is there a movetype? Then break the Apples up into individuals?
SidX
Grandmaster
UPDATE: Fun tip, when you have GM'd stealing you can celebrate by eating the apples.
Alternative method if you use bottles: Fill them with DP and drink them
Alternative method if you use bottles: Fill them with DP and drink them
rurik
Master
what are the benefits of joining the thief guild?
You can steal from other players, and buy a disguise kit. That's it as far as I'm aware.
That's a terrific simple way yeah, but remember that there are half the amount of gains inside a house, as opposed to twice that two tiles away from the house, or even four times that in a dungeon. I went the dungeon route and had it GMed in a matter of hours without touching it. Except to see if I was PK'ed.