Serpent Isle Expansion

Razimus

Razimus

Adept
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Many have attempted all have failed. 99% of the expansions to official UO have been anti-Ultima series inspired in my opinion.
Here are two main reasons why a Serpent Isle Expansion should be made.

1. It would inject Ultima-lore into this old game, a game that to many has been lore-less & Ultima history-deprived let alone story deprived. The old Ultima series fans would talk about this shard, it would be mentioned greatly by the UDIC and all the major Ultima fan pages, because we're BIG fans of Serpent Isle.

2. If you're not a fan of Serpent Isle or any offline single player Ultimas of the past, guess what, the UO team headed by Richard Garriott was originally intending on making Serpent Isle an official Ultima Online expansion, this was the plan back in 1996. Here's the proof.

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From my old page; Raz's Ultima Page.; "The first map is from the 1996 owo.com website, it is the original concept OSI had for Ultima Online. The world of Old Sosaria or shards would consist of four continents. The first continent is the Lands of Lord British commonly known as Britannia. The second continent is the Lands of the Feudal Lords. The third continent is the Lands of the Dark Unknown. And the fourth continent is upside down and reversed, but it is the great Serpent Isle, originally known as the Lands of Danger and Despair. " - Razimus

I was looking forward to the "Serpent Isle" expansion for UO back in 1997, thinking it was going to be a real expansion. I was once surprised it has never come into existence but at this point 17 years later, 'not holding my breath' would be an understatement, as it probably never will, which is too bad. Anyone who has ever played Serpent Isle from beginning to end has declared it to be the greatest game of all time or close to it. I personally consider it to be the highlight, the silver lining of the entire Ultima series, the pinnacle of greatness. Why the two worlds of Serpent Isle and Ultima Online have never joined forces is a mystery to this day.

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This is a Serpent Pillar. In the icy glacier filled oceans of Britannia there are two of these. A ship sailing in-between these Serpent Pillars will lead one through a portal to the Serpent Isle.
 
Yagyu

Yagyu

Adept
I didnt like Serpents Pillar, or the other single player Ultima games. However, the Lost Lands expansion was the best thing they ever did in normal UO! I still vote for more of that type content. Or some of the 3rd dawn content.
 
Razimus

Razimus

Adept
Yagyu said:
I didnt like Serpents Pillar, or the other single player Ultima games. However, the Lost Lands expansion was the best thing they ever did in normal UO! I still vote for more of that type content. Or some of the 3rd dawn content.
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It isn't called serpent pillar, it's Serpent Isle. Wow, nobody here has played the best game ever made? Feel sorry for you, yes UO is great but nowhere near the greatness of Serpent Isle. The depth, the characters, the story, the puzzles, complex game, shorter than part 7.0 but still greater, but if you consider Ultima VII, 1 & 2, one single game it is without a doubt the best game ever made. If you haven't played it it's practically free out there go find it any play it.
 
halygon

halygon

Grandmaster
I actually liked Ultima IX -- but I am probably the only one. (That is of course when it didn't crash and make me lose an hour of game progress).
 
Yagyu

Yagyu

Adept
Razimus said:
It isn't called serpent pillar, it's Serpent Isle. Wow, nobody here has played the best game ever made? Feel sorry for you, yes UO is great but nowhere near the greatness of Serpent Isle. The depth, the characters, the story, the puzzles, complex game, shorter than part 7.0 but still greater, but if you consider Ultima VII, 1 & 2, one single game it is without a doubt the best game ever made. If you haven't played it it's practically free out there go find it any play it.
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Lol the ultima games werent even good, let alone the best ever. What craziness! I just tried that game as a reminder and it was sooo boring and tedious. Best game ever? Lol, not Ultima! Just looking through a bunch of top PC game lists, the only mention I see other than UO is one for Ultima Underworld 2. Has nothing on the real classics. Doesnt seem like people are missing out on anything, just a very old game that doesn't even stack up with the true classics. The Ultima series was so bad and traumatic, it was hard for them to get many people to try UO when it was new. Funny you say without a doubt, when everyone else that played it thinks it was terrible...and I played these games when they were new, and they were still terrible! Thank god for uo, really did a lot for MMO. Diablo was the first really good rpg adventure game. Well that, or Baldurs Gate. Sorry but BG 1 and 2 are better than Ultima games! MoM, Moo 1 + 2, Kings Bounty, HoM+M, Dune 2, Doom Those are true classics...I would take all of those in a second over Ultima series.
 
Razimus

Razimus

Adept
Yagyu said:
Lol the ultima games werent even good, let alone the best ever. What craziness! I just tried that game as a reminder and it was sooo boring and tedious. Best game ever? Lol, not Ultima! Just looking through a bunch of top PC game lists, the only mention I see other than UO is one for Ultima Underworld 2. Has nothing on the real classics. Doesnt seem like people are missing out on anything, just a very old game that doesn't even stack up with the true classics. The Ultima series was so bad and traumatic, it was hard for them to get many people to try UO when it was new. Funny you say without a doubt, when everyone else that played it thinks it was terrible...and I played these games when they were new, and they were still terrible! Thank god for uo, really did a lot for MMO. Diablo was the first really good rpg adventure game. Well that, or Baldurs Gate. Sorry but BG 1 and 2 are better than Ultima games! MoM, Moo 1 + 2, Kings Bounty, HoM+M, Dune 2, Doom Those are true classics...I would take all of those in a second over Ultima series.
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Wow, get your facts straight guy, cuz you must be reading from the history books written by some anti-Garriott guy on wikipedia, cuz the fact is, UO sold out on beta CDs, so much so, that OSI made somewhere around 200,000$ from beta CDs alone, 5$ each, and they sold immediately, it was the first time any game company charged for the customers to play the beta, the model was SO successful, EA immediately took notice and EA and every other game company alive, MMO specifically started using the exact same model and of course upping the price, the exact same model is still being used today. The Collector's Edition (Charter Edition) of UO sold out, the game had many pre-orders and I have a chart to show you since you seem to be somewhat in a hazy state on the matter.

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UO's sales went STRAIGHT UP, it was the first major MMORPG, and some say the first, depending on your definition of massively, but the only reason it wasn't bigger than say, EQ or WOW, is because it was a NEW GENRE, too new for people and people's personal computers to catch up to the new trend of online gaming. 200,000 subscribers was a lot in 2000, but you can see the numbers drop and EQ takes over, not shown but later down the road these numbers are nothing compared to the millions of subs that WOW gains. UO was a major success, it's the reason many of these other MMORPGs even existed. You must be trolling dude, but as for Serpent Isle, you must be too young to like it based on the graphics alone, young kids today say the same thing about UO, but if you can get past the graphics you will see and know fist hand Ultima VII part 1 & 2 is without a doubt the greatest game ever made, and no you won't find it on the top of the list made by some dude who's big into Halo, or Grand Theft Auto, the people that make those lists barely know who Garriott is, they claim to be professional video game journalists but they seem to know next to nothing of the history on the subject. It's no different than a top 10 best movies of all time list, those lists are totally bogus, what's not bogus is Serpent Isle, it's beyond amazing, if you haven't played it from beginning to end you have not lived.
 
Yagyu

Yagyu

Adept
Wow thats quite the rant for nothing...all I said is when the reviews came out people were harsh on it because it was an ultima game...I never said it didnt start mmos or flourish, way to fail though. You are either trolling or really clueless, either way...who are your chars so I can get some easy kills/loot? Lol at greatest game ever made, if you said UO was maybe I wouldn't argue...but those games are just not even fun. I played them when they were new, and tried again. And they still suck! Thank god they made UO. In fact, UO made me want to try them all again so I bought the Ultima boxed set. Sadly, you use to have to buy games at one time and it was so easy to waste money on bad games like that! Maybe I'm just still bitter I bought most of the Ultima games twice, and it still didn't make them any better!
 
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