Promoting healthy and fun PvP

chad

Master
This server has a thriving PvE scene, but the PvP is abhorrent. However, I've seen the dedication and talent the staff have here and I'm confident with some healthy discussion and suggestion, it can be made great. These suggestions are what I would consider a jump in the proper direction.

1. Looting - this server is based on an era in which full loot was a selling point. You die, you lose everything. You kill someone and their shit is now your shit. On paper, that's fucking awesome. The reality of the situation though, is that you kill someone, and they have 176 potions on their corpse and unless you have autism, you're not picking it up. There isn't a single person who wants to spend 5 minutes looting every single thing off a corpse, then dragging it back to their lair to spend another 15 minutes carefully pouring each potion into a keg. MAKE POTIONS TRULY STACKABLE. You're not going to lose out on donations, or whatever. Butlers will still be convenience items. Just please, do this.

2. Spell damage - Yes, again, we're still trying to get this right. Great headway has been made with explosion and e-bolt, which are the bread and butter of group PvP, but there is more work to be done.
  • Magic arrow - This spell is so worthless, I only use spellbooks with 63 spells in them so that I can avoid accidentally using my macro for it. 1 damage on resist and 2-5 on non-resists is completely unacceptable. This spell is an integral part of 1v1 in this era. It's what I would refer to as a filler spell. It needs to do significant enough damage to prime yourself for a burst combo, ie; stun into ebolt/pot combo. But it can't be so hefty, that a solid defense can't heal through it. 5 minimum to 12 max would probably be a good start.
  • Harm - This spell isn't terrible, but it is inconsistent. I'm guessing the resist rate is something like 50% because it's a 5, then a 15, then a 5, then a 15. Rather than decrease how often it is resisted, I would suggest increasing the minimum damage when resisted to something like 8.
3. Explosion potions - Exp pot is 18-22 for mages with alchemy and 22-26 for dexers with alchemy. There's absolutely no kill potential as a mage against any decent player in a 1v1 scenario. Potion damage simply needs to be upped. I think a good starting point, would be to bring mages up to par with dexers at 22-26 (12-16 without alchemy)

Now, your concern is that alchemy is dominant, however it degrades in value the larger groups become. It's strong in small skirmishes, but as you start to reach 3v3s and higher, its usefulness falls off and starts to become outclassed by other filler skills, such as scribe. Healing and hiding have higher values in dungeon scenarios. Anyways, what I'm saying, is that the relevance of skills is situationally based and alchemists are not the end all, be all.

4. Bolas - There has been talk about these as of late, but I want to stress their importance. I personally think they should be usable by anyone and on anyone, not just limited to faction members. Applying different rules for players whether they're hardcore PvPers(factions) or just dabble, seems counter productive in breeding a fun PvP environment. Their impact in PvP is not a slight one. They're a very powerful tool, but a necessary one to force conflict. Running until the person pursuing gets bored should not be a viable tactic. To inhibit their strength some, they should be limited to players who have 100 tactics + 100 weapon skill. It brings a new variety to group fights by allowing only tank mages and dexers to use them. Dexers are currently useless in fights greater than 4v4. Allowing them the ability to create chaos by bolaing and focusing down mounts gives them a unique and viable role.

  • Faction mounts - With the introduction of bolas, you can increase the importance of sigils and create objective based PvP. Faction mounts will come bonded when purchased, but if the faction loses control of the city in which they purchased the war horse, their war horses will unbond. Warhorses will recover more quickly from bolas. .5-1s instead of 2s.
 

wreckognize

Grandmaster
I think the owner said no bolas. You'll just be beating a dead horse by bringing them up.

By the way IMO all this super technical stuff just scares away new players, and without them PvP will never truly be healthy or therefore fun.

Maybe it's time to stop posting negative comments like that the pvp here isn't good. It's good. Lots of ppl are having fun.
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
good suggestions, unfortunately we will never see bolas nor wands. People are just too stubborn and love to hop on the "uoforever-WAS-SO-HARD-I-STILL-HAVE-PEEPEE-IN-ME-EYEZ"-bandwagon.
 

CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

Grandmaster
The reason exp pots were increased on dexers was because there are literally no dexers in field pvp - it is dominated by mage zergs. This was a change to try and help them and diversify pvp.

I completely agree on stackable pots 100%, but it is a donation concern and this shard is a 'business' as mentioned by the owner.People won't use a butler if they can simply drag from their potions into their pack from a 60k stack, even though it would greatly improve restock and thus pvp.

Spell damage is odd here, as is weapon damage. An increase across the board (lower end spells) and weapon damage would be appreciated. But many here are just for 'mages online'. Alot of the pvp going on is just large groups ebolt railing one another on sallos - this isn't pvp.

Bolas - mmm i dunno, it could prove ok, or it could suck - although the gm running from most players is fucking tiresome (**COM** in particular). The thing is, unlike uoforever we have instant statloss rules here - as in, i die, im out for 48 hours, so beyond the stun zergs or ebolt rails i already cop, bolas might just further hinder players from using reds (there is literally none atm, besides EQMS or POWER).
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
The reason exp pots were increased on dexers was because there are literally no dexers in field pvp - it is dominated by mage zergs. This was a change to try and help them and diversify pvp.

I completely agree on stackable pots 100%, but it is a donation concern and this shard is a 'business' as mentioned by the owner.People won't use a butler if they can simply drag from their potions into their pack from a 60k stack, even though it would greatly improve restock and thus pvp.

Spell damage is odd here, as is weapon damage. An increase across the board (lower end spells) and weapon damage would be appreciated. But many here are just for 'mages online'. Alot of the pvp going on is just large groups ebolt railing one another on sallos - this isn't pvp.

Bolas - mmm i dunno, it could prove ok, or it could suck - although the gm running from most players is fucking tiresome (**COM** in particular). The thing is, unlike uoforever we have instant statloss rules here - as in, i die, im out for 48 hours, so beyond the stun zergs or ebolt rails i already cop, bolas might just further hinder players from using reds (there is literally none atm, besides EQMS or POWER).

weapon dmg needs some love aswell, true man. Statloss outside of Dungeons is fucked up, anyways. I don't see why we need it, but oh well.
 

lollo

Grandmaster
weapon damage does NOT need some love with the new dexer explo pot damage. Seriously, a power/vanq war fork or short spear, which is cheap as shit, will do decent damage and coupled with para blow and 25 dmg purples it makes for a really good 1v1 template. The best i'd say.

And did I mention that with the new stun duration it's gotten impossible for al alchy mage to kill someone who doesn't suck? Especially a dexer that will offscreen, heal, and fuck you when you're below 60 mana?
 

CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

Grandmaster
weapon damage does NOT need some love with the new dexer explo pot damage. Seriously, a power/vanq war fork or short spear, which is cheap as shit, will do decent damage and coupled with para blow and 25 dmg purples it makes for a really good 1v1 template. The best i'd say.

And did I mention that with the new stun duration it's gotten impossible for al alchy mage to kill someone who doesn't suck? Especially a dexer that will offscreen, heal, and fuck you when you're below 60 mana?

Where you getting these weapons bruh? i'll buy them all.

Your argument only has logic if you're naked.

I laugh at the dexers and the sticks they try to stab at my mages.
 

lollo

Grandmaster
Where you getting these weapons bruh? i'll buy them all.

Your argument only has logic if you're naked.

I laugh at the dexers and the sticks they try to stab at my mages.

I'm wearing barbed leather without the cap, that's like 26 AR. I get hit for around 20+ damage, but the swings are fast and i'm getting hit by 25 dmg purples every 4 to 5 seconds. All while paralyzed.

On the other hand i can never kill dexers that like to offscreen (which is 100% of them, and rightfully so), because now stun fails A LOT and even when you hit it, it only barely lasts 3 seconds
 

NicbolasCage

New Member
Well, I don't really agree with anything the OP said other than the final point concerning bolas. Bolas are life, bolas are love, bolas are God. This server, unfortunately lacks God. Happiness is submission to God ( bolas).
 

Nesha

Apprentice
1. stackable potions would be kinda nice, however I know Shane felt that stackable potions on a corpse would reduce the visual 'wow' factor of looting.

2. for naturally being a glass cannon, mages here can get fairly tanky in my opinion. I think this would only work if they slightly reduced the AR granted from leather sets, or increased slightly the damage from melee weapons ( kryss for example is crap here)

3. I kinda feel the opposite. I think explosion potions need to be weaker allaround

4. chasing people for eternity sucks, I'd kinda like to see bolas in action here. However I can't imagine the amount of QQ it would produce
 

Lord Hampton Royce

Grandmaster
cry more rofl cant evne beat a flute wielding bard rofl


u know how u fight peacemakers?


YOU DONT FIGHT THEM. (they bring peace)
uY682Ej.jpg


1v4ing com and TB and you got dinkus over here ALL PETS PEACED ALL PETS PEACED ALL PETS PEACED

you dont even have to click the pets, you can just AoE the peacemaking and itll peace both pets.

when pets are peaced, they dont obey, they dont move, they dont attack. they sit there like @Loakes in combat.

they are only controllable again once the peacemaker stops.

there either needs to be a cooldown on peacemaking - OR - make peacing another blue players pets a criminal act.

fix this shit CUZ IVE HAD IT UP TO HERE
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
uY682Ej.jpg


1v4ing com and TB and you got dinkus over here ALL PETS PEACED ALL PETS PEACED ALL PETS PEACED

you dont even have to click the pets, you can just AoE the peacemaking and itll peace both pets.

when pets are peaced, they dont obey, they dont move, they dont attack. they sit there like @Loakes in combat.

they are only controllable again once the peacemaker stops.

there either needs to be a cooldown on peacemaking - OR - make peacing another blue players pets a criminal act.

fix this shit CUZ IVE HAD IT UP TO HERE

I see no issue. This guy probably spent _200k_ on his 120 peacemaking (huge investment means huge reward, we learned that with tamers). I bet this "dinkus" would beat you eitherways, no matter what template he is on.
 

Lord Hampton Royce

Grandmaster
http://data:image/jpeg;base64,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
Funny-German-T-Shirt.jpg
 
Top