Power scroll turn in system

[Bromista]

I guess that is more a problem with having...too much to do. Champ spawns used to be the best way to pull valuables out of the game in the shortest amount of time but with the added risk of being raided. People know where you are and when the boss will be dropping = chance of getting raided.

Now we have dungeon bosses and RDAs that can be just as rewarding but with less risk and in many cases less time invested.

But on the note of having already attained everything you could possibly want...that's just a product of having played a lot and having done a lot of these activities. I have done as much as anyone, used to champ out the ass but I don't bother with that anymore...but I still do dungeon bosses and hunt for RDAs on the regular because I like shiny things.

I just keep piling up my shitty PS in my house, it is of no consequence to me. I had a run not too long ago of making 10m in 10 hours of active gaming. Best run I have had in my time spent here on UOF. Think I'm gonna quit just cause of a few shitty 105's?

Not a chance!

 

[FAMARA]

idk, I think we consider power scrolls to be toilet paper because the current system is broken. I have lost interest in doing champs/RDAs because they really aren't worth the effort once you have the relics/power scrolls you need. I have done 2 in the last week where as I used to do maybe 4-5 a day. I think putting some use/value to the garbage scrolls would get people interested again. Its pretty bad when you can go pop a coon spawn at any time of the day now, that means people aren't doing them...

this is true. i see less and less people at champs spawns. the most people you see is before it ends for relic chance. but they have no reason to get a high score to get a crap scroll that just takes up room in their house.

 

[FAMARA]

PS as toilet paper... yeah, the hard life of the rich.

I'll make new chars called Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Lenin... just you wait.

sorry if a 5k gold scroll isnt toilet paper to you, can go go spend 100k right now, running around @ vendors and get 20 powerscrolls

you obviously dont do champs, or you would know the work put in to get those scrolls.

you been here well long enough, 5k should not be anything to you. either that or your doing something very wrong.

 

[GluttonySDS]

Im all for this idea -- anything that gets people out into the dungeons is good with me.

 

[vagelisv]

My exact idea two weeks ago. Check my post

 

[Bromista]

People don't have enough to keep their interest?

 

[Duck Face]

People don't have enough to keep their interest?

The way I look at it is this.

This isn't adding content or anything, its making the rewards for playing the content that is already in place worth while. Right now there is little to no demand for low end power scrolls (which is the most common reward for doing champs/rdas/events). There is a huge supply of these items though and its repetitive and boring to keep getting worthless garbage after doing 30 mins to 1.5 hours or so of work. People have been asking for some sort of turn in system for power scrolls for a while, and there is a huge demand for the other items you can get at the champs/rdas/events.

If they make a turn in system for the power scrolls, put these items on the turn in vendor, set the prices at say 200-500 points or whatever they decide on, it will stimulate the economy here. People will know that the relics/higher end scrolls they need/want are always available, they just need to get the cheap power scrolls and build up to one. I think people spending 25-50k on a power scroll to turn in is better for the economy than having people hoard gold and not spend any until they have some crazy amount to drop on a relic. It is unlikely that every power scroll towards those points will come just from one player as well. This means the cost of purchasing a relic will be spread over multiple purchases and to multiple producers. More trade = better economy.

The smaller/less frequent players in this game would see more trade coming their way. It is easier to get a 105 scroll than to get extremely lucky and get a 120/relic. It is also a lot easier to find a buyer for the 105s-115s if there is a demand for them (again demand created by a new point system).

If they put this in place, the prices on power scrolls might be crazy for a little while. But that happened with vanq weapons too. There is now a steady demand for the vanqs and the prices are pretty stable now with their prices determined by the players not staff. I think the same thing would happen with power scrolls. Sure you'll have some people try to get crazy prices and buy/sell them at bulk but it will even out. We don't need staff holding our hands to set prices (which is what fb is suggesting).

 

[Bromista]

How about make 105's worth tons of pts for being turned into the battle well? CTFs are fun sometimes.

I dunno, I guess I feel like the fact that you have to get lucky to get these good drops in the first place is enough to get people out doing stuff. Shitty drops along the way is just part of the journey, which is more exciting when you have very little as opposed to a fat ass bank acct.

 

[GriefedYaBish]

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[Duck Face]

How about make 105's worth tons of pts for being turned into the battle well? CTFs are fun sometimes.

I dunno, I guess I feel like the fact that you have to get lucky to get these good drops in the first place is enough to get people out doing stuff. Shitty drops along the way is just part of the journey, which is more exciting when you have very little as opposed to a fat ass bank acct.

The demand isn't for CTFs unfortunately. Maybe if they added relics/power scrolls to the eventscore rewards. People are asking for more opportunity to get these items and people are asking for a way to make the low end power scrolls worth more than nothing. All I see since the introduction of meta pets is people complaining about how trade here sucks. I think my suggestion would help to turn it around.

 

[Bromista]

The demand isn't for CTFs unfortunately. Maybe if they added relics/power scrolls to the eventscore rewards. People are asking for more opportunity to get these items and people are asking for a way to make the low end power scrolls worth more than nothing. All I see since the introduction of meta pets is people complaining about how trade here sucks. I think my suggestion would help to turn it around.

Now we're talking.

Add some functional items as high end rewards for [eventscore.

Make PS worth bunches of pts for battlewell = pts for eventscore if you take the time to play. Gotta put the work in to get good pts back out of it.

I think we are getting somewhere!

 

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[Swayze]

serious question: Is there actually a problem with action in dungeons, champs, etc?

From my experience there is always at least 1 champ going on if not two at any given time.

 

[Bromista]

serious question: Is there actually a problem with action in dungeons, champs, etc?

From my experience there is always at least 1 champ going on if not two at any given time.

Short answer: no. There's just more to do so the action is spread out.

Let's not forget fellas, not too long ago there were no artifacts, no relics, no rare deco drops from bosses (well there were a couple but the odds of dropping were close to 0)

There is 1000x more reason to explore this added content than there was to do the old champs, broken RDAs, and one or two bosses.

With that added content comes no shortage of shitty PS drops but such is life. I personally could not as for more.

Plus staff shat on the idea when Babe first presented it. Changes like this heavily favor vets with stockpiles of shitty PS and do very little to help the new guys. It would take a while but eventually a system like this would work as intended.

I think that initial boon for vets is enough to ensure that it will never happen based on staff response in the past.

 

[Swayze]

I like the idea of turning in crappy powerscrolls for a better powerscroll but I think it would have to be something really high for it to work. Like 25 105 PS = 110 PS, 20 110 PS = 115, 15 115 = 120.

 

[Duck Face]

Short answer: no. There's just more to do so the action is spread out.

Let's not forget fellas, not too long ago there were no artifacts, no relics, no rare deco drops from bosses (well there were a couple but the odds of dropping were close to 0)

There is 1000x more reason to explore this added content than there was to do the old champs, broken RDAs, and one or two bosses.

With that added content comes no shortage of shitty PS drops but such is life. I personally could not as for more.

Plus staff shat on the idea when Babe first presented it. Changes like this heavily favor vets with stockpiles of shitty PS and do very little to help the new guys. It would take a while but eventually a system like this would work as intended.

I think that initial boon for vets is enough to ensure that it will never happen based on staff response in the past.

This idea in no way favors vets w/ a stockpile of ps if they do it like silver and make it seasonal or something similar to ensure the ps already out there don't count towards points.

 

[Duck Face]

serious question: Is there actually a problem with action in dungeons, champs, etc?

From my experience there is always at least 1 champ going on if not two at any given time.

That is not the only issue this suggestion addresses.

1. It helps the economy by encouraging more trade at lower levels.
2. It puts some value in getting shit scrolls from champs so those that only do a couple a week aren't completely turned off from doing them.
3. Gives a different way of obtaining relics for the people that complain there aren't enough.
4. Makes champs/rdas/events more competitive and more worth while.

idk I'm sure there are many more things a ps turn it system would help. I'll tell you all what doesn't help though: Keeping things the same.

 

[Bromista]

This idea in no way favors vets w/ a stockpile of ps if they do it like silver and make it seasonal or something similar to ensure the ps already out there don't count towards points.

Could do.

Man they realllllly shit on the idea though. Probly just cause it was Babethoven though. All of his ideas were extremely self-serving, but...you know..."for the betterment of the shard as a whole" or whatever needed to be said to rake the heat off of him at the time lol.

At least you are willing to take that angle away, so good on you.

I get shitty drops allllllll the time but I still like that it's a crap shoot though

 

[Swayze]

I like the idea as long as its done properly. I don't like adding relics into this but adding higher level power scroll is a good idea. I know I used to do multiple champs a night but there was a stretch where I was top 5 in score every time and getting 105 tinkering really turned me off of them. Heck 3 other guild members and I did an RDA and came out with 2 105 animal taming scrolls, that is it. Thankfully it was taming and not fishing or something so I am sure I can get 10k or so for it but I do like this idea.

 

[Bromista]

My personal favorite is when four people put in the better part of an hr to do a Locke Cole RDA just to get a 105 peace and 12k gold pile.

Glowing runes and RDA crystals add up but still, that shit don't go far between multiple players.

Then you find a chromatic in an RDA or drop a relic or a 120 making it all worthwhile and you nut yourself. If done properly, this proposal wouldn't take that feeling away by any means I'm just not sure it's necessary.