OPINION: We could benefit from a few sinks

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Streets

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First off I am not demanding anything or think this shard is in bad shape, if anything quite the contrary. This maybe just a natural result of a flourishing server, items just accumulate..

In my observations we have alot of gold, bods, skill scrolls and trophies sitting arround. These it's are loosing thier value (with few exceptions I'm looking at you elusive taming skill scrolls!)

Maybe finding a second use for these items is an option? I know there are meta pets you can you skill scrolls for.

Or maybe a server wide clean up event? Either path would result in the value of these items increasing again as well as less of a load on the server in general. I don't know the mechanics well enough if it would help on server save times but it has to have a benefit not keeping track of as many items?


Any opinions or comments?
 
AreYouKidden

AreYouKidden

Grandmaster
statues as well.. all have been talked about many times, it's just determining if they want to implement a quick fix (1 time event), or some sort of long term fix.

For statues - A couple of us have tossed around the idea of double clicking them to spawn a paragon version. Limited to certain areas for spawning, with a 10 second countdown and warning so you couldn't use them to grief people... Just fun ideas to use up statues.. .
 
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Streets

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AreYouKidden said:
statues as well.. all have been talked about many times, it's just determining if they want to implement a quick fix (1 time event), or some sort of long term fix.

For statues - A couple of us have tossed around the idea of double clicking them to spawn a paragon version. Limited to certain areas for spawning, with a 10 second countdown and warning so you couldn't use them to grief people... Just fun ideas to use up statues.. .
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I apologize, I used the word trophies instead of statues. And yes there are a ton but to be expected as it has been some time since being introduced.

My only concern with spawning a paragon would be abuse. That's alot of loot on demand as well. Keep spawning mobs and you may just keep introducing more gold into the market? But I definitely like the idea!
 
Ionized

Ionized

Grandmaster
before anything further










if your playing this game and your keeping anything under power/vanq /fort/invul

your the problem



but yes i am in favor or certain sinks, the trash token idea was great IF/ONLY tested...worked properly..... this would be a solve to EVERY hoarding statistical category on here
 
Ionized

Ionized

Grandmaster
didnt last that long, I cant even begin to remember....

forgot how the items actually turned into tokens but

X amount of items = X amount of tokens

which had a list such as the old [eventrewards or something

and had a list of title scrolls, items and such to choose, for YOUR hard work and dedication in keeping the shard clean... you had a chance to EARN/REWARD yourself with helping YOURSELF aswell as the SHARD with cleaning up BS items!!!

but.... they didnt want that :(
 
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Streets

Grandmaster
Ionized said:
before anything further










if your playing this game and your keeping anything under power/vanq /fort/invul

your the problem



but yes i am in favor or certain sinks, the trash token idea was great IF/ONLY tested...worked properly..... this would be a solve to EVERY hoarding statistical category on here
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Well there is alot of truth to what was said. But here is the break down. Not everyone is an established player/account. Yes most people just drop trash in front of the bank after they identify it. But then come new player 'A". He's still trying to get started he picked up your junk, to him it's worth something. Hence it's still in the game. Even though there is a trash can 3 tiles away it ends up on the floor or a new players bag.

Look at trophies and skill scrolls... People still hang on to the trash ones and the value is next to nothing... How much is a swords skill scroll worth?

The point I guess is one mans trash is another treasure. A sink is incentive to part with some of it.
 
wkstrm

wkstrm

Master
Streets said:
Well there is alot of truth to what was said. But here is the break down. Not everyone is an established player/account. Yes most people just drop trash in front of the bank after they identify it. But then come new player 'A". He's still trying to get started he picked up your junk, to him it's worth something. Hence it's still in the game. Even though there is a trash can 3 tiles away it ends up on the floor or a new players bag.

Look at trophies and skill scrolls... People still hang on to the trash ones and the value is next to nothing... How much is a swords skill scroll worth?

The point I guess is one mans trash is another treasure. A sink is incentive to part with some of it.
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I don't think "trash armour/weapons" is the real problem here. I see a lot of people either dropping it on the grpound but then someone will come pick it up and then sell it to NPC's, so those are not the problem.
I think SS, statues and the like are more of a problem since they are items that are supposed to have a value (I've seen SS sell for as low as 1000gp).
Or just change the drop rate of said items, that should probably fix the problem.
 
Ionized

Ionized

Grandmaster
girana said:
gold and resources sinks are most important ones.
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we can all argue what is more important in the SINK category, the current gold sink vendor isn't doing his job then?????????????????? maybe make some changes to that? to encourage a gold sink.....much less items WORTH......ONLY available THROUGH the gold sink.... which there is..... but... wake up who wants those items? much less who wants to sink gold to help the shard out into items EVERYONE else ALREADY has!!!!?

statue sink is needed, been hollering this for years, whatever the reward may be, WHO CARES.... theres 99,999 ettins, 246,734 lichs and ogres, 99,214 slimes

COME ON MAN!!!
 
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TrustyPatchez

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They could reduce the murder reprieve deed from 1m to say 100k. Then it would be worth actually using. As of now I don't know of a single person that has spent the full mil when it's so easy to remake the char. I would way rather spend 100k just for the convenience of trading out a skill on my reds.

Also maybe a gold sink item that allows you to pay the 15k talisman fee from anywhere? Keep it cheap enough people actually buy it for the convenience but expensive enough that it actually works as a sink.. Just spitballing ideas.
 
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Streets

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Ionized said:
we can all argue what is more important in the SINK category, the current gold sink vendor isn't doing his job then?????????????????? maybe make some changes to that? to encourage a gold sink.....much less items WORTH......ONLY available THROUGH the gold sink.... which there is..... but... wake up who wants those items? much less who wants to sink gold to help the shard out into items EVERYONE else ALREADY has!!!!?

statue sink is needed, been hollering this for years, whatever the reward may be, WHO CARES.... theres 99,999 ettins, 246,734 lichs and ogres, 99,214 slimes

COME ON MAN!!!
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I agree to some extent. There are some decent items on the gold sink vendor. Traped pouches, character slots and maybe (not sure how much) murder reset?

But you are right it has to either be worth the sink or functional. When I say functional I don't mean over powered I mean quality of life ... The traped pouches for example don't break the game because you could carry a ton of traped chest so you have no real advantage, but it does add to text quality of gameplay.

I really think this is why the value of gold has dropped. Nobody has anything to spend it on so it just keeps building up. Same with trophies, after you have a few then what? They just keep collecting dust.
 
wkstrm

wkstrm

Master
You can spend it on me! :D

On a more serious note though, there would probably be nice to have more things that does not affect the game balance to spend money on. I guess there are a lot of housing options that could be possible gold sinks for example.
 
Ionized

Ionized

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TrustyPatchez said:
They could reduce the murder reprieve deed from 1m to say 100k. Then it would be worth actually using. As of now I don't know of a single person that has spent the full mil when it's so easy to remake the char. I would way rather spend 100k just for the convenience of trading out a skill on my reds.

Also maybe a gold sink item that allows you to pay the 15k talisman fee from anywhere? Keep it cheap enough people actually buy it for the convenience but expensive enough that it actually works as a sink.. Just spitballing ideas.
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that talisman thing is nice, as well as a pet res? but have 1 cooldown per day like a help stuck?

i dont believe in the first option of lowering the deeds, you seriously have to consider these....pure trash scum underlings who think they are somebody that would over and over again use this to their advantage, to target weaker players, which is due time and result would be people crying/complaining

everybody, EVERYYYYBODY plays this game for their different reasons, lets not take that away from anybody here, but we the vets, + long time staff have seen scum filth work their jelly in such ways that 100k per reset per chance at stealing powerscrolls and relics, it seems legit but here at UOF we have seen ALOT.... A WHOLE LOT and we the old geezers have seen such behavior in the land of trollery in Sosaria
 
Ludwig

Ludwig

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I think we're far too established unless we want to try it as a side system but I think another server handled sinks well by making the equivalent of donation coins lotto tickets with random prizes. Maybe a thought with a new pool of rares?
 
De Medici

De Medici

Grandmaster
We do not need more goldsink. We have a price deflation which means gold (in agregate) grows slower than most desired items.
 
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