New Exploit or just my luck?

so-LOW

Grandmaster
I should have rephrased that. I more meant that why would a minimal amount of dex (obviously you are not gonna add a ton of dex on a mage) increase your stuns. Swing speed is based off of groups of 30. So 30 dex is faster than 0-29. 60 Dex is quicker than 30-59. And so on.

Unless you have 40 dex and pot up, you will not reach the next level of swing speed so in theory, you should not stun any faster than with 30 dex (or 25 + blue pot).

35 dex as a minimum means that without a blue pot, you can take a clumsy (-11 dex) and still have 24 dex. Enough to get you over (after a stun) the 8 Stam drain point (where you run with less than 8 stam and it drains to 0). If you blue pot up with 35, you can possibly stun twice before you have to red pot up.
I didnt mean amount of stun chances i ment chance to actually stun when you punch. I honestly dont know.this for a fact but like i said its what ive been told from a fee very reliable sources and i definitly notice the difference when i pvp
 

halygon

Grandmaster
I didnt mean amount of stun chances i ment chance to actually stun when you punch. I honestly dont know.this for a fact but like i said its what ive been told from a fee very reliable sources and i definitly notice the difference when i pvp
Ah.. Well stun chance is supposedly a calculation based only on the wrestling skill and Anatomy skill, but I have never seen the code so i cannot confirm for real.

Historically I have always rolled with 90 35 100 stats and potted str/dex before every fight.
 

Bromista

Grandmaster
Only way to fly: 18 greater heal, 18 greater cure, 20 refresh, 12 greater agility, 12 greater strength, 100/25/100.

Old azz does it make you feel stupid to know that you flat out suck at PvP despite the time and effort you invest in it? Christ I don't PvP much at all and I've got more game than you do.

Back on track: I land way more stuns on my 100/25/100 mage than I ever did when my old stun mage was 90/35/100.
 

so-LOW

Grandmaster
Only way to fly: 18 greater heal, 18 greater cure, 20 refresh, 12 greater agility, 12 greater strength, 100/25/100.

Old azz does it make you feel stupid to know that you flat out suck at PvP despite the time and effort you invest in it? Christ I don't PvP much at all and I've got more game than you do.

Back on track: I land way more stuns on my 100/25/100 mage than I ever did when my old stun mage was 90/35/100.
Are you high on goat turds again? Id ask for a 1v1 or 2v1 bcuz of all the shit u talk but weve all seen how u react to that mr million n one excuses

Btw how do i kill u 1v1 on my *bard vs ur tamer??? Lol
 

Bromista

Grandmaster
Simple, you don't kill me. Ever.

Well unless I'm half health and distracted, then you'll take a count on me on your blues. Aside from that you have never killed me.

Still trying to turn your dodge arounon me? Classy.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
Simple, you don't kill me. Ever.

Well unless I'm half health and distracted, then you'll take a count on me on your blues. Aside from that you have never killed me.

Still trying to turn your dodge arounon me? Classy.
Dammit @Bromista -- I am trying to have a conversation here.

Back on track: I land way more stuns on my 100/25/100 mage than I ever did when my old stun mage was 90/35/100.
I bet this is all in your head because your swing speed would be the same, assuming you are using one of those 12 agility pots to up your stam.
 

Bromista

Grandmaster
I mean actually landing the stuns effectively, I don't get any more attempts. If anything I have given up one attempt per refresh but it's worth it to me to have max hp and carryweight.

But for some reason I can't fail a stun lately, landing almost every one. Back ages ago when I ran a 90/35/100 stun mage I couldn't land a stun to save my life.
 

jkg8787

Master
Stun Chance % should be skill based (Anatomy + Wrestling), nothing to do with Dex. But who knows what the RunUO code is or if its been modified.
 

Bromista

Grandmaster
Right. I just wanted to give my perspective that more Dex has had the "opposite effect" to aid in debunking the land more stuns with more Dex theory our resident crack-smoker old azz is spewing.
 

jkg8787

Master
Right. I just wanted to give my perspective that more Dex has had the "opposite effect" to aid in debunking the land more stuns with more Dex theory our resident crack-smoker old azz is spewing.
100/25/100 is fine. Just like getting 10 more dex at the cost of 5 hp is fine. There is no definitive correct answer. Its about trade-offs.
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
you can't get max hitpoints with anything less than 100 str. When you're a Mage its Mana+HP > Dex. I'm doing extraordinarily good on my 100/25/100 and I know that players like Pwiz, Azria, Xplozive, Dave etc. roll the same stats.
 

jkg8787

Master
you can't get max hitpoints with anything less than 100 str. When you're a Mage its Mana+HP > Dex. I'm doing extraordinarily good on my 100/25/100 and I know that players like Pwiz, Azria, Xplozive, Dave etc. roll the same stats.

That 5 hp could mean living or not (especially when its group PvP). Having that extra 5 hp could keep you alive while waiting for cross-heals.

It comes at the disadvantage of increased MB damage (which anyone paying attention can work around) and the fact that you need to chug more G Agils and TRs (which both are 100% success chance to craft, and people should be carrying 10-20 anyways).
 

K A Z

Grandmaster
That 5 hp could mean living or not (especially when its group PvP). Having that extra 5 hp could keep you alive while waiting for cross-heals.

It comes at the disadvantage of increased MB damage (which anyone paying attention can work around) and the fact that you need to chug more G Agils and TRs (which both are 100% success chance to craft, and people should be carrying 10-20 anyways).


exactly. Especially in groupfights those 5 HP are freaking important. It's way easier to just feeble yourself and/or chug a gr agil pot when you encounter a MB spammer. MB is really not all too hard to counter.
 

so-LOW

Grandmaster
Simple, you don't kill me. Ever.

Well unless I'm half health and distracted, then you'll take a count on me on your blues. Aside from that you have never killed me.

Still trying to turn your dodge arounon me? Classy.
LOL what??????????????????....??????????????.......??????
Id think this was a troll by anyone else but your really this insane
 

so-LOW

Grandmaster
exactly. Especially in groupfights those 5 HP are freaking important. It's way easier to just feeble yourself and/or chug a gr agil pot when you encounter a MB spammer. MB is really not all too hard to counter.
Its.not even about mb for me its mainly about.not.running thru 20 refreshes in one fight. Id never roll 100 25 100 on anything but my bard and does anyone kno for sure if higher dex doesnt help stun chance? I can really tell a difference unless im jus trippinnnn
 

so-LOW

Grandmaster
Simple, you don't kill me. Ever.

Well unless I'm half health and distracted, then you'll take a count on me on your blues. Aside from that you have never killed me.

Still trying to turn your dodge arounon me? Classy.
So 1v1 or 1v2 then?
1V1 pits or field and 1v2 dungeon
 

jkg8787

Master
Only way to know for sure is to have a GM check the code and confirm, but I've never in UO adjusted my dex for stun chance %, usually its just to save on TRs.

Extend this to other Special Hits, do Crushing Blow/Para Blow/Conc blow hit more often on 100 dex?

Really all I can go off is memory of it never having an effect, but I don't think "well I feel like it does more often" is really any more scientific.

Need GM word, or someone to test a sample at 25 dex, then 50 dex, or whatever.
 

so-LOW

Grandmaster
Only way to know for sure is to have a GM check the code and confirm, but I've never in UO adjusted my dex for stun chance %, usually its just to save on TRs.

Extend this to other Special Hits, do Crushing Blow/Para Blow/Conc blow hit more often on 100 dex?

Really all I can go off is memory of it never having an effect, but I don't think "well I feel like it does more often" is really any more scientific.

Need GM word, or someone to test a sample at 25 dex, then 50 dex, or whatever.
Well if it does it for other special moves it would for stun aswell. And like i said i can actually notice an increase.in stuns when i drink a blue
 
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