Well when my nox relic hits at a champ my score instantly goes up by about 1k points... mine is only level 6 nox atm. I don't have the molten relic on mine so I can't comment on that but the nox is pretty good. Especially at coon/abyss. As far as why you would bring a tamer, I can finish top damage on both my tamer and macer, but I take the tamer for the meta exp. In most cases I finish around the same points with both characters.Aoe lethal poison sounds cool but it's not the bees knees. It's cured instantly by any mob worth it's salt. It's decent in early champ spawns but let's face it, why would you champ on a tamer anyways.