ANYONE else tired of gluttony saying anyone can do it....

[Tard the Paladin]

Consider that the Kingdom's stuff could be balanced several ways. Guilds that join Kingdoms could automatically go to the smallest Kingdom to prevent the largest guilds from making one huge Kingdom. This would provide balance on the number of guilds in each Kingdom.

The only way the Kingdom stuff will actually become popular is if it properly incentivizes blues to join the action. PvM bonuses and pixels would be the way to achieve that. The incentives would also need to be based on the number of members in a Kingdom. This would give an edge to the smallest faction and make the largest faction less appealing in terms of gaining pixels. This provides balance for incentives.

The other concern besides numbers is abusing the Kingdoms system. IE having different accounts in different kingdoms. Providing incentives based upon a players activity will prevent players from leeching off the work of others. A player in a Kingdom that doesn't pull their weight shouldn't receive bonuses like the players that do. Putting that in context would be akin to a faction player with a low punkte score receiving very little silver from mobs where a player with a high punkte score would receive a lot of silver. The punkte score type system prevents players from running up their score by killing alt characters.

Those are just some ideas in my head about balancing the new faction-type system. I'm sure there are other good ways to prevent imbalances and exploits.

The Kingdoms idea is a great way to get blues involved in PvP. Their involvement in PvP will allow them to get better pixels when they PvM. The Kingdoms system can be balanced in terms of numbers and participation.

If Kingdoms becomes popular then it will solve the so-called red crisis. We reds will be doing Kingdoms rather than raiding the dungeons. It will also encourage blues to join the fun because they will have incentive to do so. They surely don't have to PvP because there's nothing to make them. However, if they want the shiniest pixels and the best bonuses then the amount of work they do put in will determine their rewards.

 

[drasked]

I'm of the opinion that nobody currently on this shard has it in them to topple EQMS in their own game. Too many egos, no incentive, not fun... etc.

Kingdoms will have to bring a lot to the table for this to change. A LOT.

 

[TheGooch]

Consider that the Kingdom's stuff could be balanced several ways. Guilds that join Kingdoms could automatically go to the smallest Kingdom to prevent the largest guilds from making one huge Kingdom. This would provide balance on the number of guilds in each Kingdom.

The only way the Kingdom stuff will actually become popular is if it properly incentivizes blues to join the action. PvM bonuses and pixels would be the way to achieve that. The incentives would also need to be based on the number of members in a Kingdom. This would give an edge to the smallest faction and make the largest faction less appealing in terms of gaining pixels. This provides balance for incentives.

The other concern besides numbers is abusing the Kingdoms system. IE having different accounts in different kingdoms. Providing incentives based upon a players activity will prevent players from leeching off the work of others. A player in a Kingdom that doesn't pull their weight shouldn't receive bonuses like the players that do. Putting that in context would be akin to a faction player with a low punkte score receiving very little silver from mobs where a player with a high punkte score would receive a lot of silver. The punkte score type system prevents players from running up their score by killing alt characters.

Those are just some ideas in my head about balancing the new faction-type system. I'm sure there are other good ways to prevent imbalances and exploits.

The Kingdoms idea is a great way to get blues involved in PvP. Their involvement in PvP will allow them to get better pixels when they PvM. The Kingdoms system can be balanced in terms of numbers and participation.

If Kingdoms becomes popular then it will solve the so-called red crisis. We reds will be doing Kingdoms rather than raiding the dungeons. It will also encourage blues to join the fun because they will have incentive to do so. They surely don't have to PvP because there's nothing to make them. However, if they want the shiniest pixels and the best bonuses then the amount of work they do put in will determine their rewards.

This is the thing tho, a lot of the players that play blues don't want to pvp. They just want to pvm and get loot. No changing it. There are probably a very few that will do kingdoms if there is a diff loot table involved. Shitty situation all the way around. Great ideas on your part nonetheless. I just don't see that part of the population joining even with incentives put in front of them.

 

[Tard the Paladin]

This is the thing tho, a lot of the players that play blues don't want to pvp. They just want to pvm and get loot. No changing it. There are probably a very few that will do kingdoms if there is a diff loot table involved. Shitty situation all the way around. Great ideas on your part nonetheless. I just don't see that part of the population joining even with incentives put in front of them.

That would be fine though. The goal shouldn't be to make every player PvP. Like you said, there are some that simply don't want to PvP and they will still benefit. The non-PvP'ers would have much safer dungeons because we reds will be participating in Kingdoms. Staff has said that it would be nice for other players to get involved in PvP. There are players out there that will enjoy it if it became incentivized. Its a great way to nudge some players into getting involved. Every player could benefit.

 

[Inflames]

trying to get pvm people to pvp is hardly a fix to this problem.
if people need to be rewarded to do something then they are doing it for the wrong reasons.

most pvpers do it because its fun and they enjoy it every fight is differnt never stale and that brings me to why pvp is dieing its become stale and boring and people play games to have fun.

if you want to revitaize pvp then stop shitting where you eat. if you consider yourself a pvper then respect the game and stop shitting all over it.
its the same reason why people use cheats winning is all that matters in this day and age by any means.

if eqms wants to lead newbs to the promise land then teach them the proper way to pvp insted of how to click two buttons but then they wouldnt be so dependant and might grow wings and fly.

i dont have the answers but everyone knows what the problem is.

p.s. tard your a fucking newb bro how many times did i save your ass when i was in wrekt and now your some puffed up chested zergling wtf happend to you. i guess you followed the ez pixels like all the other cattle.

i always said uof community was the worst i had ever been a member of and that was before eqms im glad i quit before i had to see what has happend to the best free shard out there

 

[Tard the Paladin]

trying to get pvm people to pvp is hardly a fix to this problem.
if people need to be rewarded to do something then they are doing it for the wrong reasons.

most pvpers do it because its fun and they enjoy it every fight is differnt never stale and that brings me to why pvp is dieing its become stale and boring and people play games to have fun.

if you want to revitaize pvp then stop shitting where you eat. if you consider yourself a pvper then respect the game and stop shitting all over it.
its the same reason why people use cheats winning is all that matters in this day and age by any means.

if eqms wants to lead newbs to the promise land then teach them the proper way to pvp insted of how to click two buttons but then they wouldnt be so dependant and might grow wings and fly.

i dont have the answers but everyone knows what the problem is.

p.s. tard your a fucking newb bro how many times did i save your ass when i was in wrekt and now your some puffed up chested zergling wtf happend to you. i guess you followed the ez pixils like all the other cattle.

i always said uof community was the worst i had ever been a member of and that was before eqms im glad i quit before i had to see what has happend to the best free shard out there

Hey times change man. I don't remember who you are but I think its cute you still consider yourself relevant. I got tired of the pixel chase and was about to quit and Glutt sent me a message saying that I might have some fun. Over a year later and I'm still living the dream.

 

[Inflames]

Hey times change man. I don't remember who you are but I think its cute you still consider yourself relevant. I got tired of the pixel chase and was about to quit and Glutt sent me a message saying that I might have some fun. Over a year later and I'm still living the dream. We do a ton of PvM and PvP.

expendable youth omerta x you dont have to remember me... but i remember you. and if thats living the dream you need to get out more

lol considering ones self relevent in a video game your funny man .

 

[Tard the Paladin]

expendable youth omerta x you dont have to remember me... but i remember you. and if thats living the dream you need to get out more

lol considering ones self relevent in a video game your funny man .

ok i guess

 

[GluttonySDS]

I'm of the opinion that nobody currently on this shard has it in them to topple EQMS in their own game. Too many egos, no incentive, not fun... etc.

So because others have ego and refuse to group up like we do, there should be mechanic changes that nerf people? The dumbest part of this discussion so far though has been people calling for harsher penalties because they are worried people are quitting for that other shard(which isnt really happening) -- the dumb part is that other shard has legit no stat loss or penalties at all for PKs. Increasing stat loss isnt going to do anything except make people play their reds with even more caution(i.e. more people).

As for incentivizing people to try PVP -- you're telling me if werkt/TBA/$/TRIN-SB alliance could get lots of gold, relics, rare pixels, wearables etc from participating in militias(notice I said participating, not dominating) that they wouldnt do it?

 

[Tard the Paladin]

I don't want to consider the scandalous acts that players would do for a chance at a relic.

However, if farming becomes risk free then those relics aren't going to worth squat. That's the upside at least.

 

[GluttonySDS]

p.s. tard your a fucking newb bro how many times did i save your ass when i was in

wrekt and now your some puffed up chested zergling wtf happend to you. i guess you followed the ez pixels like all the other cattle.

I love it when people in large guilds like werkt call other people zerglings... as if you guys havent grouped up very deep for RDAs before -- you are most definitely a zerg, just one that has little clue on how to properly defend yourselves.

i always said uof community was the worst i had ever been a member of and that was before eqms im glad i quit before i had to see what has happend to the best free shard out there

nice -- you're talking about a server on which you dont play, I'm sure you have a great handle on how the shard is doing!

 

[GluttonySDS]

this is a sad day if an entire server cannot defend against six reds, my mind was literally blown last night and I was utterly disappointed in the blue population of this server.

I would be more then happy to teach anyone here willing to fight, but there is literally no one willing to fight.

It was indeed a sad example of the player mentality on this shard -- heaven forbid the 30 or 40 blues there had to fight 6 reds to keep themselves safe...instead of doing this(even with all their pets) they chose to flee, hide, run to their houses(werkt), or die.

 

[Inflames]

I love it when people in large guilds like werkt call other people zerglings... as if you guys havent grouped up very deep for RDAs before -- you are most definitely a zerg, just one that has little clue on how to properly defend yourselves.





nice -- you're talking about a server on which you dont play, I'm sure you have a great handle on how the shard is doing!

Say it with me REKT NOT WERKT i dont even know who werkt even is

 

[Bobby123]

I'm of the opinion that nobody currently on this shard has it in them to topple EQMS in their own game. Too many egos, no incentive, not fun... etc.

Kingdoms will have to bring a lot to the table for this to change. A LOT.

Wrong buddy !

$ guild is one of the only guild able to defeat DodgeQMS consistently in RDAs / CHamps / Arch daemons etc with just 4-6 members etc but we cant possibly play 24 hrs a day .

But the only problem is DodgeQMS have so many members that they can basically fill up 2 whole party throughout the day so the problem exists

 

[Tard the Paladin]

Say it with me REKT NOT WERKT i dont even know who werkt even is

Rekt -> Lore -> Werkt

Same guild. Every few months they change guild leader because the pixel horders get upset over who has the most pixels and they must reorganize. A shining example of UOF's typical PvM guild.

 

[Inflames]

Rekt -> Lore -> Werkt

Same guild. Every few months they change guild leader because the pixel horders get upset over who has the most pixels and they must reorganize. A shining example of UOF's typical PvM guild.

and thats the reason i left and all the pvper did too so a guild full of pvmers is irrelevant and rekt was the pvp crew teach your lord and savior so he knows what hes talking about

 

[Tard the Paladin]

the guys the big hypocrit talks about people shit talking with egos all the time ironic ... make fun of his own guildmates gambling problem for his own amusment nice guy... wonder why he needs to be surrounded by a huge following probly making up for what he lacks in real life

LOL. I'm just wondering what inspired you to log on to forums for a game that you don't play to tell people to get a life. Second Life seems utterly absurd to me but I don't google their forums to go flame them.

 

[Inflames]

LOL. I'm just wondering what inspired you to log on to forums for a game that you don't play to tell people to get a life. Second Life seems utterly absurd to me but I don't google their forums to go flame them.

shatterd skies the game i play now is down for maintinace and its a full loot pvp game nice try tho.
so are you trying to imply im not welcome here or i dont know enuff about uo to add anything what are you an eliteist now i bet you still play a dexer

and i never said anyone needs to get a life thats your words i said you need to get out more......

 

[Tard the Paladin]

and thats the reason i left and all the pvper did too so a guild full of pvmers is irrelevant and rekt was the pvp crew teach your lord and savior so he knows what hes talking about

rekt was a pvp crew? I guess I learn something new everyday.

 

[Silly Santa]

Rekt -> Lore -> Werkt

Same guild. Every few months they change guild leader because the pixel horders get upset over who has the most pixels and they must reorganize. A shining example of UOF's typical PvM guild.

LOLZ - REKT - STANK - RMF - *S* - WERKT