WTS Another Big Lotto!!!! Ended

[Bromista]

For the reading impaired/people who can only understand jpg formatting:

 

[wreckognize]

Taking the high road I see.

No need to put on airs, as you so often do.

Have a laugh at yourself sometime! It works wonders lol.

What's the matter, @Bromista don't you have some bragging to do about your latest near-victorious 3v1 attempt?? The more you reply, the more I'm starting to wonder if you're just a lonely housewife looking for all the big mens on the internets attention.

I mean it's just been jab after jab after jab for, two solid months??, maybe u should just hurry up and hit rock bottom again so that we can enjoy another few months of you being quiet and pulling the pubes out of your teeth.

Or is jabbing all you can do with those wet noodle grippin' leaver pullin arms?

 

[Bromista]

Oh no!

 

[Fattson]

@wreckognize I agree with you on many issues, but this isn't one of them. The lotto is voluntary. Hell, I'm thinking of doing one on my vendor to showcase craftables. I don't understand how doing a lotto is an exploit in any way. Can it be abused? Sure. So can third party clients in pvp. Hell, I even think tree hack is cheating.

I don't understand why you're busting @Messremb 's balls for a completely legit lotto on a legit vendor run by a legit player. One guy cried because he got orange cloth for 50k, which is only valued at 10k more than what he paid.

I personally watched Mess rez kill a thief that was camping his lotto. I think vendor lotteries are uo at its finest. Pay if you've got the cash and at your own risk.

 

[Bromista]

Ehhh thing is he has probably ran lottos of his own and is just hanging on to some dumb shit from some disagreement with Mess a year ago +

He's cool like that. He's all about the wonders of sandbox gaming, that is until he's not...

 

[Fattson]

Well he's not entirely wrong. But if we start banning every possible aspect of the game that COULD be exploited, there isn't gonna be much of a game left to play.

 

[wreckognize]

Try to see things from my perspective. I have managed and watched hundreds of player vendors on this server alone. Nobody can deny that the current player lotto system goes against some very basic game balance principles. There's no player interaction involved, you make a ton of profit with very little effort. The risk does not outweigh the reward whatsoever. These are the things that have killed so many freeshards before this one, and while I agree that player lotto has not done really any damage to UOF at this point, it doesn't mean that it can't.

Can you imagine if everyone had a player lotto?? Every time someone pays 25k for ''what's in the box'' they aren't buying 5 kegs... next thing you know keg vendors get bored and stop making kegs because they aren't selling as quickly as other things. Hell, running a player lotto even takes away from players time spent making things like kegs and craftables, and there is literally no player interaction necessary besides macroing gating on an afk alt at brit bank.

What I can't understand is why a person can't read this, and simply agree that we need both

1) a new player lotto system that has a ceiling

2) for the current lotto system to be removed until then.


Look I'm good with people posting opinions, but the shit is obviously broken and requires a fix so why not try to think of a solution rather than giving an opinion in this case??

What I would like to see is a new system with a ceiling, possibly tied into the conquests system? So the more lotto you run, the more gold you can make, forcing players to want to interact to get sales to happen faster?

@Fattson Would you agree that something like that would better suit game balance as a whole??

I understand that for some, there is some nostalgia behind the current player lotto system, but it breaks even the most basic rules of online game balance so it's better imo to just remove it. I cant even begin to imagine the effort needed in making such a system, so it's probably just better to scrap the whole idea of player lotto for now.

 

[Bromista]

Nope. Player choice. Sandbox FTW.

[/Hanes]

 

[Fattson]

Try to see things from my perspective. I have managed and watched hundreds of player vendors on this server alone. Nobody can deny that the current player lotto system goes against some very basic game balance principles. There's no player interaction involved, you make a ton of profit with very little effort. The risk does not outweigh the reward whatsoever. These are the things that have killed so many freeshards before this one, and while I agree that player lotto has not done really any damage to UOF at this point, it doesn't mean that it can't.

Can you imagine if everyone had a player lotto?? Every time someone pays 25k for ''what's in the box'' they aren't buying 5 kegs... next thing you know keg vendors get bored and stop making kegs because they aren't selling as quickly as other things. Hell, running a player lotto even takes away from players time spent making things like kegs and craftables, and there is literally no player interaction necessary besides macroing gating on an afk alt at brit bank.

What I can't understand is why a person can't read this, and simply agree that we need both

1) a new player lotto system that has a ceiling

2) for the current lotto system to be removed until then.


Look I'm good with people posting opinions, but the shit is obviously broken and requires a fix so why not try to think of a solution rather than giving an opinion in this case??

What I would like to see is a new system with a ceiling, possibly tied into the conquests system? So the more lotto you run, the more gold you can make, forcing players to want to interact to get sales to happen faster?

@Fattson Would you agree that something like that would better suit game balance as a whole??

I understand that for some, there is some nostalgia behind the current player lotto system, but it breaks even the most basic rules of online game balance so it's better imo to just remove it. I cant even begin to imagine the effort needed in making such a system, so it's probably just better to scrap the whole idea of player lotto for now.

I could make almost the same exact case for taming and everything they've gotten. Why make kegs when I can just go buy a meta dragon and farm and buy all the kegs I could ever want?

I think, and this is my own opinion, that the only thing we NEED to change is the education of new to uo players. I think we could do a better job of helping out people who somehow manage to stumble upon uof by accident. We need more companions and we need even the griefiest of griefers and the scammiest of scammers to take one day out of a month and help out someone that they see struggling. Even if it's nothing but two minutes worth of advice on how to not get scammed or taken advantage of.

Tell me that wouldn't make all the difference in the world.

 

[VFingerDiscount]

Way too fucking long didn't read: wreck is on way too much adderal

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[Bromista]

Way too fucking long didn't read: wreck is on way too much adderal

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Too much? Not enough?

You gotta read it all to understand though, or at least to give yourself the best chance of understanding the beast he is wrestling with. (In my case it's obviously my wife, that is plain for all to see I think)

I'm still blanking, but god dammit I tried.

 

[wil3ur]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

 

[Death Barbie]

@Bromista you have offered nothing constructive to this thread. All you want to do is sit back and dog on people constantly. I've sat back and read your posts in the past and have actually laughed at them, but they're really getting sad. There are people on this shard that actually want to contribute in a positive way and offer suggestions for the better good. Then you come in with your ignorance and disrespect and turn a decent thread into a flame show. Stop trying to be funny all the time because you're looking like a fool (yea yea you're a jester blah blah), and it's legitimately backfiring on you. Be the bigger person for once.

Oh and you should be ashamed of yourself for dogging on your wife like that. I know what everyone else says about her around here, but for you to join in now is really sad. I feel really bad for her and she clearly could do better.

 

[Bromista]

Duly noted. Thanks for playing?

See post #21. Develop a sense of humor!

My wife really, truly isn't fat. But that's the only card anyone can play against me lately. Beating them to the punch and making fun of myself better than anyone else can is a viable strategy, even if it's not based in fact. This is what the internet is all about.

Maybe you will remember this next time you take my posts seriously, @Death Barbie

 

[wreckognize]

Bromista, what @Death Barbie wrote is as real as it gets. I can see now you truly feel guilty about disrespecting her beyond her knowledge. You are a good person on the inside but I think it would be best for this community and yourself if you come clean about this mistake in judgement.

You should come clean bro and spare us the delusional crap already.

 

[Bromista]

Productive round of PMs with Death Barbie, we cool

 

[wreckognize]

I really commend death barbie for this sort of community involvement, something that is becoming more and more important within online communities as the number of DDOSing butthurters becomes larger every minute.

 

[Bromista]

Yeah, Death Barbie's intentions are definitely solid. I thank her for the reminder that I don't always have to stoop to the level of my adversaries, which I have often done lately!

 

[wreckognize]

Yeah, Death Barbie's intentions are definitely solid. I thank her for the reminder that I don't always have to stoop to the level of my adversaries, which I have often done lately!

I too must admit that even I have stooped down to the your level of simple personal attacks in order to get you to lose your cool again and get banned. Even though I only did it to get you to stop trolling the suggestion section, which should not be allowed in my opinion it is very harmful to the server by taking up developers time, I do see how maybe we could have resolved this earlier had we both made the effort to be constructive. And for those personal insults I do apologize, not only to you but also to the community as well.

 

[Bromista]

Even though your apology is backhanded and that of a petulant child, I forgive you.

Maybe we will get a better Bromista and Hanesboi out of this? We're both as guilty as the other after sll, I'd hate to see you go down in Flames and Rants with me.

Yes? Yes?