Remove target closest options

[Malkraven]

With the increased spell dmg i think the need to block target closest targeting options has arrived and put some skill back into pvp atm its pretty much people runing with precast ebolts and targeting closest and its getting super dull super fast. Im all for the increased spell dmg and it seems to have great positive impact on 2v2 3v3s but anything more than 5 players and its just really bad and very unskilled form of pvp

@Adam @Blair

 

[Jamiezz (Temp. Removed)]

I feel like they tried this before and no one played.

 

[Jani]

I agree with @Jamiezz - they tried this and it wasn't good. I dislike removing target closest idea as well. There's a risk that people might stop playing because targeting sucks and playing isn't as enjoyable as it was before. Not worth it in my opinion.

Unfortunately, I just don't see any real reason why target closest should be removed. Removing essential functionality won't make anyone suddenly better than others. Target closest option has been there as long as I can remember and pretty much everyone uses it. I feel like this is another "nerf EQMS" thread.

 

[Bruno D]

If target closest was removed then a small group of skilled players would probably have a better chance of survival against a large group of unskilled players.

 

[Jani]

People with UOsteam pull bars macros would get some nice advantage. Just run screen, use pull health bars macro and do some easy and fast targeting. How we'd take this option off? These macros are widely available for "skilled" UOsteam users.

 

[Malkraven]

People with UOsteam pull bars macros would get some nice advantage. Just run screen, use pull health bars macro and do some easy and fast targeting. How we'd take this option off? These macros are widely available for "skilled" UOsteam users.

and sallos has sticky bars what your point?

Much more cheaty IMO but neither has anything to do with target closest

 

[Jani]

and sallos has sticky bars what your point?

Sure but you still have to manually grab them, right? There's grab your enemies health bars using one button macro for uosteam. As far as I know such option might be only available in "non-legit" Sallos clients.

I'd say disabling target closest etc. targeting options would be only good for trammies/pvmers. Recalling away would be so much easier. Don't you think so?

 

[Malkraven]

idk ive never used target closest tbh i use the set enemy or target with first spell . i have seen bar pulling macros but thats not much worse than having bars already pulled from previous fights. (sallos sticky bars).

 

[Ch4se]

Time to make a script to pull bars.

 

[Jani]

Time to make a script to pull bars.

I think pretty much everyone got it. If not... just google it. All you need to do is change one value based on your screen resolution.

 

[Malkraven]

I think pretty much everyone got it. If not... just google it. All you need to do is change one value based on your screen resolution.

where evreyone else just sneaks in back of safe tower and pulls health bars before they come to fight and keeps them on screen for the rest of the night either way this aint what the poll was about i was talking about people caston spells and dropping using closest blue/red hotkey and not pulling bars at all

 

[Jani]

where evreyone else just sneaks in back of safe tower and pulls health bars before they come to fight and keeps them on screen for the rest of the night either way this aint what the poll was about

Maybe, sometimes that is possible, sometimes not so much. However, my point is that in 2015 there's no need to disable such old and essential functionality. Especially when pretty much everyone uses those targeting options.

Also, I believe that people will find some ways or use easyuo etc. macros to make targeting easier for them and get some advantage. If they tried it before and it was bad, why it would be good now?

 

[GriefedYaBish]

No thanks that sounds it would make pvp incredibly dull

 

[Messremb]

With the increased spell dmg i think the need to block target closest targeting options has arrived and put some skill back into pvp atm its pretty much people runing with precast ebolts and targeting closest and its getting super dull super fast. Im all for the increased spell dmg and it seems to have great positive impact on 2v2 3v3s but anything more than 5 players and its just really bad and very unskilled form of pvp

@Adam @Blair

i am 100% behind this, all this effort to improve PVP and factions is being wasted cause the only type of PVP that's viable is zerging. I don't want to be a FS turret, i don't wanna play with FS turrets, and i don't want to fight FS Turrets, so i haven't PVPed much since that became the only viable form of PVP.

Calling targets is one of the most challenging parts of PVP, and it would be great if that was part of what made a group of PVPers good again.

 

[GriefedYaBish]

i am 100% behind this, all this effort to improve PVP and factions is being wasted cause the only type of PVP that's viable is zerging. I don't want to be a FS turret, i don't wanna play with FS turrets, and i don't want to fight FS Turrets, so i haven't PVPed much since that became the only viable form of PVP.

Calling targets is one of the most challenging parts of PVP, and it would be great if that was part of what made a group of PVPers good again.

I'm really surprised staff made this change in the past, i just don't see how this helps PvP. IMO it would make PvP awkward and it would feel clunky, i can only imagine being in a group fights and not being able to stun someone in the back who is out of position because there is no target closest hotkey.

 

[Sandman]

Been done before. It did not work out. Also if I recall certain people still found ways to target closest so it was just unfair.

 

[Messremb]

I'm really surprised staff made this change in the past, i just don't see how this helps PvP. IMO it would make PvP awkward and it would feel clunky, i can only imagine being in a group fights and not being able to stun someone in the back who is out of position because there is no target closest hotkey.

there are numerous ways to target, try next humanoid target, works wonders. this would really only hurt zergs who cant call targets.

Been done before. It did not work out. Also if I recall certain people still found ways to target closest so it was just unfair.

I thought it worked great, it was a year and a half before the zergs returned to UOF.

 

[GriefedYaBish]

there are numerous ways to target, try next humanoid target, works wonders. this would really only hurt zergs who cant call targets.



I thought it worked great, it was a year and a half before the zergs returned to UOF.

I use sallos it does not have that target option and steam/razor are not options for me due to the high ping. I'm across the country from the server and i ping 200+ with razor or steam.


ps zergs call targets and have always been on uof

 

[Athrez]

LoL. Do you guys realize this thread was made mostly just to troll some people? Seems it worked to troll some others too who were not meant to be trolled.

 

[ScooterUo]

BAN STEAM BAN RAZZOR BAN SALLOS! LETS PLAY UO LIKE IT WAS MADE TO PLAY! YOU ALL CHEATERS!