Remove Donation Items that are already in game rewards

[Tearloch]

I am a bit confused as to why Clothing Bless Deeds were added as Donation Items. These items already exist "in game" as rewards for tailoring.

Look, I get it. These are desirable items. But so are other items. Why not add Power Scrolls as donation items? Why not add Runic Hammers/Sewing Kits as donation items? This makes tailoring less desirable as one of the most popular rewards is now not only available by another means, but it is available at basically a set price.

This makes no sense at all to me. I don't believe there are any other donation items that are already "in game". Why the inconsistency with this particular item?

If the concern is that enough of them do not exist "in game", then add them into the champ spawn loot tables....

 

[King Dingaling]

I agree with you..clothing bless deeds use to be the shit..now they arent going for more than 160k each

and bring back black sandals on the jewler in brit

 

[Bromista]

Ethies and CBDs are keeping the UOF dream alive in the form of donations.

I'm not sure how many CBD LBODs you pull but with two tailors I get about one every couple weeks or so. Once a month sometimes. So I don't mind honestly. I still eat every single one I turn in, always blessing clothing. Always.

There wouldn't be enough CBDs to go around if they were rewards only!

 

[Malkraven]

What bromista says.

The majority of pks/pvpers for example buy very few things from dono vendors (CBDs and Ethys) if u want to continue playing on such a good server and have lots of updates then donation's need to keep flowing the 2 things that everyone needs are Ethys and CBDs .

 

[poogoblin]

I wouldn't mind seeing CBDs going. At very least bumping them up to 2k dono coins wouldn't be a bad compromise either.

 

[Tearloch]

Or how about replacing CBDs with something equally cool in the Tailor BOD rewards......

Again, this is the ONLY item that I know of that is both an in game reward and a dono item...

How about, since the crafting reward ones are relatively rare, they make it a deed that can bless a piece of leather armor????

 

[Malkraven]

yea bods as whole could use some better rewards imo

 

[poogoblin]

yea bods as whole could use some better rewards imo

This is another solution, though it would be a much more involved solution

 

[Bromista]

Would that be sweet? Yes. But don't hold your breath.

BOD cloth will get an annual or bi-annual update. Everything else will be left as-is. I promise you this.

 

[Tearloch]

How about replacing CBDs in the reward table with something all tailors would love? Like an Ancient Thimble or some other wearable item with X number of charges that boosts your tailor skill by Y points. Basically replace the tailor reward that is no longer exclusive and replace it. Studded and Bone still have a high failure rate at 120 skill. This would be an easy fix. As long as it is wearable it would work just like an ASH.

 

[Tearloch]

At the end of the day it is not fair to have a crafting reward that is not exclusive. I would also suggest removing smith and tailor PS from the champ tables as well. I am sure most of those guys aren't happy when they get one of these after defeating a champ.

 

[Bromista]

How about replacing CBDs in the reward table with something all tailors would love? Like an Ancient Thimble or some other wearable item with X number of charges that boosts your tailor skill by Y points. Basically replace the tailor reward that is no longer exclusive and replace it. Studded and Bone still have a high failure rate at 120 skill. This would be an easy fix. As long as it is wearable it would work just like an ASH.

Would be nice for sure (I mean to have RSK's in general not as a CBD replacement.) It has been asked for and it has been ignored in the past.

@halygon kenobi you are our only hope.

 

[Tearloch]

Would be nice for sure (I mean to have RSK's in general not as a CBD replacement.) It has been asked for and it has been ignored in the past.

@halygon kenobi you are our only hope.

Hopefully if we give them an easy alternative they will consider it. Asking for something is different than giving them a mostly developed plan including implementation.

 

[halygon]

How about replacing CBDs in the reward table with something all tailors would love? Like an Ancient Thimble or some other wearable item with X number of charges that boosts your tailor skill by Y points. Basically replace the tailor reward that is no longer exclusive and replace it. Studded and Bone still have a high failure rate at 120 skill. This would be an easy fix. As long as it is wearable it would work just like an ASH.

Would be nice for sure (I mean to have RSK's in general not as a CBD replacement.) It has been asked for and it has been ignored in the past.

@halygon kenobi you are our only hope.

So the CBDs are one of those items that will not be leaving the donation store. Shane has said this multiple times in the past. The fact that you can gain them as tailoring rewards means that this is only an alternate way to acquire them instead of donating.

This is actually a duplicate thread (honestly I think it was made before the other one), but I will say the same thing. I don't think this is really an issue. The economy is fairly well contained as far as gold worth is concerned. If they completely removed the CBDs from the donation store, people still wouldn't pay more for CBDs. What WOULD happen though is that more people would afk gather BoDs so that they can cash in with little effort.

All of that said, I have always been a supporter of an ancient-something for tailoring (actually I think I brought the idea up in that old ideas thread). I don't know if this would be implemented, but I will bring it before the dev team, but I think their focus right now is the new expansion (which by the way is pretty rockin), and changing up BoD teir rewards is not a light task.

 

[Tearloch]

Haly, thanks. I just think this is an easy "two for one" fix.... Restores exclusivity of crafting rewards and adds an item crafters really want. Totally understand the business case for keeping CBDs as a dono item (after it was explained to me).

 

[Bromista]

So the CBDs are one of those items that will not be leaving the donation store. Shane has said this multiple times in the past. The fact that you can gain them as tailoring rewards means that this is only an alternate way to acquire them instead of donating.

This is actually a duplicate thread (honestly I think it was made before the other one), but I will say the same thing. I don't think this is really an issue. The economy is fairly well contained as far as gold worth is concerned. If they completely removed the CBDs from the donation store, people still wouldn't pay more for CBDs. What WOULD happen though is that more people would afk gather BoDs so that they can cash in with little effort.

All of that said, I have always been a supporter of an ancient-something for tailoring (actually I think I brought the idea up in that old ideas thread). I don't know if this would be implemented, but I will bring it before the dev team, but I think their focus right now is the new expansion (which by the way is pretty rockin), and changing up BoD teir rewards is not a light task.

Yeah you were the one who suggested it before. Definitely can't hurt now that you have some sway!

I do think you are right about the expansion being front and center ATM. Buttttt we can always hold out hope for the future.

 

[Bromista]

Speaking of tailoring BOD rewards. What is the story with this tapestry? Found in a players home, East of Despise and North of Brit:

The only tapestry I have gotten from tailoring rewards has been this hue:

And it would be super cool if we could have this hue available also:

Anyone have any input on this?

 

[Karl Sagan]

Speaking of tailoring BOD rewards. What is the story with this tapestry? Found in a players home, East of Despise and North of Brit:

The only tapestry I have gotten from tailoring rewards has been this hue:

And it would be super cool if we could have this hue available also:

Anyone have any input on this?

I think that's a dark flower tapestry, it's a reward as well I have several from the ol idoc days

*gazes out window*

*sighs*

 

[Bromista]

I think that's a dark flower tapestry, it's a reward as well I have several from the ol idoc days

*gazes out window*

*sighs*

So I guess on like ten turn-ins (all were back in the day, haven't turned in a tapestry deed in a long long time) I have never gotten one? Interesting.

*Fires up make last/target by type macro*

 

[poogoblin]

So the CBDs are one of those items that will not be leaving the donation store. Shane has said this multiple times in the past. The fact that you can gain them as tailoring rewards means that this is only an alternate way to acquire them instead of donating.

This is actually a duplicate thread (honestly I think it was made before the other one), but I will say the same thing. I don't think this is really an issue. The economy is fairly well contained as far as gold worth is concerned. If they completely removed the CBDs from the donation store, people still wouldn't pay more for CBDs. What WOULD happen though is that more people would afk gather BoDs so that they can cash in with little effort.

All of that said, I have always been a supporter of an ancient-something for tailoring (actually I think I brought the idea up in that old ideas thread). I don't know if this would be implemented, but I will bring it before the dev team, but I think their focus right now is the new expansion (which by the way is pretty rockin), and changing up BoD teir rewards is not a light task.

Again I think upping the price to 2k or even 1.5k dono for CBD would be a legit fix to make these a more desirable BOD reward