Red Stating Red = Absurd!

Jibreel_kills

Jibreel_kills

Master
HI UOFK
Title pretty much tells it all! Running into a group of reds and getting stat is inconsistent with reason or common sense. Changing this to where blues must kill the red is by far reasonable. This will cause more blues to group up which is better. So far this server wants zergs with how it is set up. @Shane @eppy @Blair @Adam @Swayze come on everyone agrees with this! Why not fix this !
 
halygon

halygon

Grandmaster
Jibreel_kills said:
No, that's stupid... Why not just fix where reds that were killed by other reds cannot be stated. Like fac killed fac
One example why it's dumb, red tamers would lose taming from 120 lol
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While I wasn't tagged like everyone else....

I don't think your example is very good as if we had perma skill loss then that is the price to pay if you are a red tamer. But we don't have perma skill loss so its a moot point.

I do like your idea though that reds killed by other reds cannot be stat'd and will bring it up in staff chat.

@Blair - any thoughts?
 
GluttonySDS

GluttonySDS

Grandmaster
What non faction reds are statting you? Sounds like you should join factions...

EQMS stats reds who are known statters or scum -- why should we be forced to go on blues to dispense justice.
 
Deadpool

Deadpool

Grandmaster
GluttonySDS said:
What non faction reds are statting you? Sounds like you should join factions...

EQMS stats reds who are known statters or scum -- why should we be forced to go on blues to dispense justice.
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I would agree with this, honestly. If you're red and you are dealing with a red who is griefing you (reds can grief reds, ya know) then why not have the ability to stat him to get some revenge?
 
Jibreel_kills

Jibreel_kills

Master
GluttonySDS said:
What non faction reds are statting you? Sounds like you should join factions...

EQMS stats reds who are known statters or scum -- why should we be forced to go on blues to dispense justice.
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I am not known to stat anyone but yet eqms still stats me. I mostly run solo. Also killing a foe on a red is good enough. It really shocks me that you guys even stat but yet are asking for pvp. I can understand why people are stating eqms though they have alts after alts but maybe to try and get there numbers down.
 
Jibreel_kills

Jibreel_kills

Master
Deadpool said:
I would agree with this, honestly. If you're red and you are dealing with a red who is griefing you (reds can grief reds, ya know) then why not have the ability to stat him to get some revenge?
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But this is where you forcing the need to be in a bigger group or a Zerg. I have not been stated by a solo person one on one or 2 v 1 I can get away. Let's say a Zerg of reds role through they have a very good shot at getting me. They have committed the same crimes as I have to be red. Why are they able to do justice when they are evil themselves
 
Deadpool

Deadpool

Grandmaster
Jibreel_kills said:
But this is where you forcing the need to be in a bigger group or a Zerg. I have not been stated by a solo person one on one or 2 v 1 I can get away. Let's say a Zerg of reds role through they have a very good shot at getting me. They have committed the same crimes as I have to be red. Why are they able to do justice when they are evil themselves
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Not necessarily. They may have killed blues that are also PVPers and you could've killed blues that were innocent PVMers. Or vice versa. My point was more so if you are fighting a red that maybe is known to grief or something to that affect, then wouldn't it be good to be able to stat him/her so they have to take a break from griefing you? Griefing is griefing.
 
CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

CAPTUN AUSTRALIA

Grandmaster
Jibreel_kills said:
I am not known to stat anyone but yet eqms still stats me. I mostly run solo. Also killing a foe on a red is good enough. It really shocks me that you guys even stat but yet are asking for pvp. I can understand why people are stating eqms though they have alts after alts but maybe to try and get there numbers down.
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Yep, the system is broken, and most UOF players even more so.

I get statlossed more by EQMS on their blues than their reds (they seem to roll blues when it's 4-6v1, and only log on their reds when they get close to 10 or more).

Unfortunately, making harsher penalties just caters to pussies who roll in large packs, and changing it so reds can't stat reds means EQMS get more benefits.

2015 player mentality was pretty shitty, and it's looking like 2016 will be more of the same. The simple truth is most players hate death, so will adopt a play style that is pure faggotry - be it instant statlossing, calling in 5-10 for solo players, running the entire map, hiding behind tamers, taking little to no risks etc etc.

The biggest thing killing UO is the players, not the game. I fear the Militia system will fall short, regardless of how much potential some of the changes may have, because at the end of the day, UO has turned into zerg/gank fest, meaning the average player probably has no chance of participating.
 
Zog'orium

Zog'orium

Grandmaster
GluttonySDS said:
What non faction reds are statting you? Sounds like you should join factions...

EQMS stats reds who are known statters or scum -- why should we be forced to go on blues to dispense justice.
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or orcs wen da klan ambushes @ EQMS gildhuse HAR HAR !
 
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