Meta Talisman for Tamers

[lapj]

Meta pets have been out for over a year, they are still so expensive to own and maintain. cost millions. meta egg cost 1m+ , meta stone cost 3m, bloody/molten relic cost 5-6m each, QS 9-10m. to get your meta drag to lvl7 it will cost you 10m+ for that +20 tame scroll. Yes, I know they are endgame items. but by the time I get there or even halfway there, I will be so burnt out that I'll prob quit playing.

How about adding a tamer talisman that gives a boost to damage(gotta also level it up like the berserker). make it so that it will only work for a regular dragon and maybe death beetle. though they are already pretty strong with their poison.

right now a meta dexxer with a slayer wep is OP and so cheap to make. I refuse to play one because I worked so hard to build my tamer but at the same time cannot afford all those meta pet relics. a tamer talisman would be a perfect alternative.

What do you all think?

 

[Hexoplex]

In short...nope.
Meta Pets, Talismans, and Relics are endgame (if there is such a thing in UO) level things. They take time, money, and/or effort to get.

How about adding a tamer talisman that gives a boost to damage(gotta also level it up like the berserker). make it so that it will only work for a regular dragon and maybe death beetle. though they are already pretty strong with their poison.

So there's that...

right now a meta dexxer with a slayer wep is OP and so cheap to make. I refuse to play one because I worked so hard to build my tamer but at the same time cannot afford all those meta pet relics.

Well you have at least 8 other slots you can take advantage of and make a cheap OP meta Dexxer. Then use them to farm the gold needed to complete your Meta Tamer.

but by the time I get there or even halfway there, I will be so burnt out that I'll prob quit playing.

You'll be back, nearly all of us have "quit" at one point or another.

Meta pets have been out for over a year, they are still so expensive to own and maintain. cost millions. meta egg cost 1m+ , meta stone cost 3m, bloody/molten relic cost 5-6m each, QS 9-10m. to get your meta drag to lvl7 it will cost you 10m+ for that +20 tame scroll.

They should stay that way, they are elite and sought after items. Everything listed can be farmed and doesn't need to be bought, except for the Meta Stone (I believe). The cost of those items are on par with the demand for them.

Use some Dragons or a Beetle combo to farm up some gold/items/leather and sell it. You'll hit that million gold mark faster than you think. Take that million and buy the cheapest egg you can find, use it to repeat the same process to get your first relic, rinse and repeat until you have the same in-game wealth as wreckognize.

 

[Bromista]

In short...nope.
Meta Pets, Talismans, and Relics are endgame (if there is such a thing in UO) level things. They take time, money, and/or effort to get.


So there's that...


Well you have at least 8 other slots you can take advantage of and make a cheap OP meta Dexxer. Then use them to farm the gold needed to complete your Meta Tamer.


You'll be back, nearly all of us have "quit" at one point or another.


They should stay that way, they are elite and sought after items. Everything listed can be farmed and doesn't need to be bought, except for the Meta Stone (I believe). The cost of those items are on par with the demand for them.

Use some Dragons or a Beetle combo to farm up some gold/items/leather and sell it. You'll hit that million gold mark faster than you think. Take that million and buy the cheapest egg you can find, use it to repeat the same process to get your first relic, rinse and repeat until you have the same in-game wealth as wreckognize.

What, 100m in items tops? And even that was ill-gotten.

To be honest it's not the worst idea ever if that had been the direction they went from the get-go in lieu of introducing the meta pets.

However the way things currently are seems fairly balanced to me.

Meta pets are ferocious beasts, and while it is true that even a regular dexer can outperform a meta dragon at a champ or RDA, it is not as easy mode as using a pet. That's the way it has always been and that's o.k. because taming is the hardest skill to raise. Taming deserves a perk and that perk is EZ mode.

As far as end use there are plenty of PvM situations that favor both dexers and tamers over the other class.

So the difference in ease of use and strategy is pretty much set in stone. The damage is relatively comparable. Leveling a meta dexer and meta pot are both pretty long grinds.

That leaves cost.

Relic cost is about 3-4x higher for tamers than it is for mages and dexers and having a maxed out meta pet costs 20m+. The risk of loss is practically nonexistent. People cry about the cost of skilling up a meta with scrolls (honestly skill gain just needs a boost but that's another topic) but you really don't have to do it. I have never used an SS on my dragon and I use and abuse my pets. I get my money's worth and I'm certainly not scared to use the damn thing. The relics make the pet.

Dexers incur a much much higher cost upon death if gear is lost and it adds up quick. Slayer weapons, slayer armor, more resources than tamers carry.

I think in the long run things probably come out pretty even. Trouble is getting to that point as a tamer where you have made your $$ back and then some.

 

[Swayze]

As a tamer, I don't really think we need much of a boost. The only really issue I have right now is control of my lvl 7 and they have incorporated better control after each 2 mill experience (apparently) so that solves that.

I would like to see some sort of balance between tamers and meta dexxers but I also think meta dexxers take a lot more risk because they can't provo and are taking direct damage.

 

[lapj]

I'm not asking to change meta pets. just want an alternative. a poor mans meta pet. a talisman for a dragon and drake only. forget about the beetle.

 

[Swayze]

I actually really like the balance currently in the PVM scene.

Meta dexxers/mages are crushing (maybe too much) in this current invasion and have always been great at invasions.

Both are very similar in score at champs (a meta dexxer can do really well if he is switching his slayers).

Tamers are so much better at RDAs then a meta dexxer. Mages do well in RDAs.

 

[eppy]

I was looking at meta skill gain yesterday. You can gain pretty much anything to the cap. Poisoning and magery really being the exceptions.

 

[Bromista]

I was looking at meta skill gain yesterday. You can gain pretty much anything to the cap. Poisoning and magery really being the exceptions.

This is true, these are the exceptions!

Poisoning doesn't matter as long as it is over 100 so you get quite a few deaths before you feel any impact at all. Magery is a little different but I mean big deal. Metas are so strong that it's a drop in the bucket.

I used to be all about getting it fixed but I'm way past that now.

 

[ProdigyOsi]

eh, once you have 120 taming I don't see the point either. Poisoning and Resist get a bit low then then thing rolls over. Steeds are a bit more painful because their damage is abysmal (2 mill is like 2 months...) but hey, first world problems.

Personally I have never used a single scroll on my pets and I have no problem topping the meters.