Faction Thief's

[Saturn]

Should have to have 0+ points to steal a sig.
A thief in negative points should not be able to steal a sig.

The problem is people just make a thief, continue to re res, dont even stock. Come into a base stealth with no hitpoints and -6 punkte.

No risk+all reward isnt how faction system is supose to work.

Its basically just griefing/trolling and abusing the system in its current state.

I think these thieves should have to have faction status if they want to steal a sig.

 

[aIck]

No.

 

[Saturn]

No.

Your reasoning behind your opinion is outstanding.

 

[Malkraven]

lol why exactly should this happen have u not had faction tailored to your needs enuff?

Anyone could just honor the thief anyway like you do when u give all points to a alt so u dont lose precious punkte when u die..

 

[Saturn]

lol why exactly should this happen have u not had faction tailored to your needs enuff?

Anyone could just honor the thief anyway like you do when u give all points to a alt so u dont lose precious punkte when u die..

Sorry but i dont honor any of my chars,
As you can see every char i have in factions has punkte
and my main faction char unosnow has the most and thats the char i play the most so your theory is null and void sorry.

Tailored to our needs? This is something me and @Athrez discussed way before the faction wipe that faction players with negative points shouldn't be allowed to steal. This was before stealing was implemented.

 

[Malkraven]

*cough* bullshit *cough* lol

Al says he said nothing of sort is being complete liar part of the DMG prerequisites?

 

[Saturn]

*cough* bullshit *cough* lol

Al says he said nothing of sort is being complete liar part of the DMG prerequisites?

Me and Al had talked about this before you were in relevant.
We used to have this minax dude that would come into base with -6 and no stock or anything and steal the sig hide/stealth with sig to reset, this is when me and Al were going for the sig keeper title that we had discussed this.

 

[GluttonySDS]

dumb idea

 

[halygon]

@Saturn - What is your reasoning behind why negative punkte thieves should not be able to steal sigs? Are they negatively impacting the faction system in some way?

All I have heard so far is that kamikaze thieves are slipping through your defenses.

 

[GluttonySDS]

While we're at it, let's also make anyone craft faction weapons and armor and let anyone make faction traps. Requiring multiple skillsets to do everything in factions just makes it more unique.

If anything, I'd not have a problem with removing the sigil messages when a sigil is stolen etc... kind of makes it hard for the people out there who love trying to 1v20 a sigil out of a base(and yes, these people exist).

 

[Malkraven]

@Saturn - What is your reasoning behind why negative punkte thieves should not be able to steal sigs? Are they negatively impacting the faction system in some way?

All I have heard so far is that kamikaze thieves are slipping through your defenses.

He wants to be the only one who can run in grabs sigil and resyncs back out after he honor all his points to his thief so he dont lose precious punk on his main

 

[Saturn]

@Saturn - What is your reasoning behind why negative punkte thieves should not be able to steal sigs? Are they negatively impacting the faction system in some way?

All I have heard so far is that kamikaze thieves are slipping through your defenses.

The problem is people just make a thief, continue to re res, dont even stock loot come into the base stealth with -6 points.

No risk+all reward isnt how faction system is supose to work.

 

[Saturn]

He wants to be the only one who can run in grabs sigil and resyncs back out after he honor all his points to his thief so he dont lose precious punk on his main

LoL malk your trolls are so weak.
You must be still bleeding out of your ass after that rape in mag earlier huh?
Snow and Ghost makin whole crews log.

I wouldn't be the only one able to steal sigils if this was in affect im not sure what your talking about.

Anything i suggest your just gonna shoot down anyway because your a butt hurt troll that i left SL.

 

[halygon]

The problem is people just make a thief, continue to re res, dont even stock loot come into the base stealth with -6 points.

No risk+all reward isnt how faction system is supose to work.

Shouldn't that make them that much easier to kill?

Let's look at this from another perspective. What is the difference between your scenario and a thief with lots of points that is just quickly losing them by resing over and over to throw themselves at your defenses? Either way they have no stock and are just stealthing in.

Thieves are inherently not made to gather points in factions. They sacrifice their PvP prowess for stealth and stealing.

How many thieves out there have points at all?

 

[Saturn]

Shouldn't that make them that much easier to kill?

Let's look at this from another perspective. What is the difference between your scenario and a thief with lots of points that is just quickly losing them by resing over and over to throw themselves at your defenses? Either way they have no stock and are just stealthing in.

Thieves are inherently not made to gather points in factions. They sacrifice their PvP prowess for stealth and stealing.

How many thieves out there have points at all?

I do, so does marly i had 9 on my thief earlier today because i run stun stealing 5x mage. I fight on the field with my thief all the time, and i die a ton but i also kill enough to stay positive.
I mean if thieves are just meant to have stealth and troll sigs in factions then i guess its fine, but i dont see it that way.

 

[GluttonySDS]

The goal of a dedicated thief is to do anything possible(including sacrifice his life) for the sigil... I feel bad for the people who really enjoy playing stealth/faction thieves as the war map and the faction messages make it pretty much impossible to do anything sneaky with sigils.

 

[Malkraven]

I do, so does marly i had 9 on my thief earlier today because i run stun stealing 5x mage. I fight on the field with my thief all the time, and i die a ton but i also kill enough to stay positive.
I mean if theives are just meant to have stealth and troll sigs in factions then i guess its fine, but i dont see it that way.

Exactly u want to make it easy for you when u only one left online when your pals get there 4 hours sleep before jumping back on UO for another 20 hr session.

my thief has hide/stealth track/detect and not built for pvp why should he be? his a thief...

 

[Malkraven]

LoL malk your trolls are so weak.
You must be still bleeding out of your ass after that rape in mag earlier huh?
Snow and Ghost makin whole crews log.

I wouldn't be the only one able to steal sigils if this was in affect im not sure what your talking about.

Anything i suggest your just gonna shoot down anyway because your a butt hurt troll that i left SL.

lol no why so angry hahahahaha

was 3v3 and 2 of you had tamers and dragons? and we killed miri twice nearly you once was fun lol chill out no need to nerd rage.


tbh if was 3v3 just mages u woulda got rolled (just like u did at brit) im not disapointed in our performance. Lets be honest if u where even close on par with aem on tamer skill you would have got more kills

 

[Saturn]

My main issue is the trolling by stockless thieves just causes people to go out and hunt someone down for a half hour and it takes away from pvp.
killing a stealth mongbat just takes away from pvp that could be happening.

 

[Saturn]

lol no why so angry hahahahaha

was 3v3 and 2 of you had tamers? and we killed miri twice nearly you once was fun lol chill out no need to nerd rage.


tbh if was 3v3 just mages u woulda got rolled (just liek u did at brit) im not disapointed in our performance.

You talk plenty about honoring, so im sure you could just honor your non pvp thief if u wana steal a sig.