Deletion Threads vs. Moving Threads - Hot Topic forum

BeerJedi

Grandmaster
This will be fairly straight forward suggestion for the forums. There have been a few threads lately i was reading, reviewing and weighing if i wanted to respond. Many were always heated debates, others spun out of control. All are now deleted, which is sad/frustrating. Not because i wanted to add more fuel to the fire or continue to beat a dead horse, but to understand points from all sides and prevent myself for restarting a thread i didn't know existed (and subsequently deleted)

Two threads today:

(1) 247 Guild thread, heard about, wanted to review, no idea what has happened other than GL gone, guild dissolved
(2) Taming Changes for PVP by Adam/Carl that no longer exists.

So my suggestion - instead of deleting a thread on a subject (and unfortunately subsequent threads where someone doesn't know) move to a specific subforum of contested topics. Lock the threads if necessary (Especially if the sludge is really being thrown) if not locking - when a thread is moved to this sub forum, they're heavily heavily moderated and core conversation ot the original thread only allowed. Posts - before appearing - will be reviewed by moderator for validity of content.

Set a post requirement to even be able to see the forum in order to prevent newer players and members of the forum community seeing something that could be considered detrimental to new players. set it for 25 or 30 posts, etc.

My hope would be that for hot topics can be discussed with out bloodying the waters of UOF.

Pros:
(1) Hot Topics, delicate topics that can lead to unnecessary mudslinging can be addressed
(2) Ability to have heated debates with Shane, Carl, Bryce, Adam a possibility - (Do so at one's risk. :D )
(3) minimization of repeat threads or a dozen "omg. admins don't want me posting"

Cons:
(1) Claims that admins refuse to approve my post cause my opinion differs
(2) efforts by staff to handle new load of now heavily moderated posts/approvals
(3) Dirty laundry always stinks.

This is not a knock on the staff or the community. I think UOF has been fantastic and the staff is doing some fantastic things for us. I just get personally frustrated when (1) I post into a thread on a hot topic, go back to see if it made a difference only to find nothing and (2) Reading a thread i may want to weigh in on and then not finding it.
 

halygon

Grandmaster
Honestly, I am all for locking theads instead of deleting them. I hate seeing multiple threads created because the original was deleted.

The idea about have a min post count to see theads marked like this is very interesting. Seeing how the forum software is not developed by the UOF team, I am not sure if this is even a possibility unless it is already a feature.
 

Bunnky

Grandmaster
+1 for locking instead of deletion. Unless it's extreme. Real extreme.

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Don Key

Master
Disagree.

From their perspective, they wouldn't want new people to see threads like that and decide not to play here.

If you want to flame and rant, perhaps starting a message board of your own for just that purpose might be in order
 

BeerJedi

Grandmaster
Disagree.

From their perspective, they wouldn't want new people to see threads like that and decide not to play here.

If you want to flame and rant, perhaps starting a message board of your own for just that purpose might be in order

First, it's not about the flaming and ranting. it's about heated discussions (a difference) such as the one started yesterday by an admin about pet changes. To me, that needs to be discussed. If i were to start a thread about it, it'll get locked and burned. i don't want to rant or flame, i want to discuss the principals and determine if there is a compromise.

I do agree that flames and rants don't need to be seen by new players, which was why i put the caveat of having a minimum post count to see the forum. Most folks who are new won't get to 30-50 posts immediately. usually takes some investment, but which point they understand the beauty of this server. Nothing is perfect, transparency can help and it can hurt, as pointed out.

A seperate forum is an interesting thought. though not sure how the admins would appreciate that.
 

Salsa

Grandmaster
I'd like to see threads regarding 247 to be open so that people can explain their sides of things. I say this, being 100% behind the idea of Raged and Alundra being banned, poison in the well.

I think it would be beneficial to hear what happened and then allow the rest of the remaining members to have a place to regroup.

But again, good riddance to Raged and Alundra, and to anybody doing chargebacks in paypal.
 

Mango

Grandmaster
I do like the idea of moving the threads or locking them instead of deleting. However, on that note, I'd hate to have such hate-related posts on the forum, as google would index it.
 

MANKRIK

Grandmaster
As I said in another post on this topic (which was deleted), there's no point in trying to sweep stuff under the rug. People are going to notice that the largest guild on the shard is now gone, and they will ask why and debate it. If you keep killing these threads then rumours are going to spread and no one will know exactly what happened. Transparency is a good thing, as is discussing what's going on on the shard (both good and bad events). Deleting threads is very common on this forum for some reason, and most of the threads aren't even bad.
 
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