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That is not even close to the OP for this post. I want the champ rewards to drop like normal so knuckle draggers like you can raid and steal them and go about your happy lives trolling and trying to make everyone miserable, while I get a champ token or something of the like for scoring in the...

What you don't get is the system he is suggesting (it could be altered by the management to make sure it wasn't making it horribly lucrative and becoming like a participation trophy) would 100 percent allow people doing champs to enjoy the experience and add a little more reward to offset the...

You have said that before, and I said I would rather stick to UO because I enjoy it. at this point youre trolling to make a point. And proving my point that all some people want to do is troll and ruin it for everyone else.

Im in one. a rather large alliance actually, but it is almost entirely PVM chars who have no desire to deal with the likes of raids and pvp. Some of us don't find that fun. You can tell just by the amount of opposition and trolling here that not everyone is ok with everyone doing their own...

Apples and oranges friend...apples and oranges.

well apparently some of us are better than others. thanks for the input, it helps solve the problems that the ones that keep getting screwed have with the way things are.

ITs funny though that most of the names i see on here saying its the dumbest idea ever are same that roll in in groups and raid. imagine that.

Why would it get raided more if they gave reward points that werent lootable, ie went to bank or were character bound? some of us dont have the option to fight back. i will never be better than mediocre at pvp. you are not the first to suggest that i assure you. when they are rolling in 10...

i realize this...i only have a few hours a day i can really play usually...in between work and kids and life and adulting. not all of us get opportunities at all hours of the day. unfortunately my hours are during peak gank hours apparently.

consider me schooled.

I always get ganked before the boss is even dead...but maybe that's just me

hell if I know...just never been all that great at all things pvp.

Im just saying maybe not on a grand scale that makes it horrendously easy to get what you want...but a coin here or there to reward for doing the champ that eventually over time could add up to enough to do something with would be solid to keep people like me motivated enough to keep doing...

Every damn time. It seems I am on side of things. But much to my dismay im no fucking good at the other side.

Ive done 6 this week. 6 have been raided.

Where is the reward when literally every champ gets raided. PVM folks are hosed no matter which way you look at it. when you get too high in the number of people trying to raid them and too low on the number of folks trying to complete them its all risk and no reward.

This idea needs to get some traction.

Snarky snarky. i like uo, and would rather stay playing. attitudes like that and the ganking are what push people that dont want to gank off the server. say what you will though. when its just a constant ebolt rail battle between eq and power and you all wonder why no one new wants to...

I 100 percent agree dropping all rewards directly in the bank would be ludacris...too many people that enjoy pvp and raiding champs would be upset. On the other hand something to mitigate it and make it worth the effort would be solid.

I mean even doing a champ with a group say it somehow miraculously ends in 1v1 for tamers to reds. we are already engaged with mobs/(more often then not since they roll in right at the end) the boss, theres no way we will recover at all if they are even remotely decent at pvp. and those odds...