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For some reason, my original link to this didn't work. Read down the page a little. https://www.uoforum.com/threads/stop-defense-talisman-abuse.82749/ I think to stop all this crap, would be best to just leave it as it is, like it was originally. Considering it has been an issue for some...

Then what is this entire debate about? Bare with me, because I think I am missing a point or five here. Forget about how it has been changed to completely disable the talisman from any form of combat, the root issue why these changes were implemented in the first place. I am so confused. And...

So, this thread is split between those that state that the talisman does not work for PVP and others state it does, yet you have admitted yourself it does work for PVP. The talisman skills and bonuses are not applicable against other players or pets. This is from the wiki also, so the point...

Bro, I ain't fussed if it works or not to be honest since it really doesn't apply to me all that much. Just providing my opinion is all. The monster thing though is just that, it is PVP in a sense that players are interacting with players and has no bearing on the debate at hand, it is more of a...

To prevent it being used in a PVP environment which was stated from the very moment talismans were released. The same applied with the Quench relic I think its called, where it would negate player owned dragons from doing any reasonable damage which, was resolved if I remember right. I do think...

We could create a venture out of this you know, perhaps get some sand, turn it into sand dunes around the pool and whatnot and create our very own Dead Sea Forever lake tourist attraction. I mean, this place will never run out of tears so, it is quite easy to refill on a regular basis. Then we...

Technically, this is PVP. Any action regarding a player who intends to cause grief/harm or any negative act towards another player falls under the category of Player Vs Player. The same applies to a thief and every other action regarding player A trying to interact with player B...

Any extra flavour to party-on-up this tried and tested but boredom infused gig. Throwing extra shiny's at it without the addition of some delightful sparkles and unpredictable characteristics of these new and improved terminator style, Sosarian Halloween hell spawn will just bring about more...

That would be amazing!!! Blue = pumpkins Grey = Ghost statue Red = Candy Cane stick............... just kidding Red = Bloody skeleton.

Now this is being creative! Why not make the event fancy, provide some additional fun to the whole thing. Adding extra drops and whatnot is just meeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, we have seen that and done that so many times and its just a quick fix which as AreYouKidden has said, will...

Too hot for some it seems.. So lets make it complicated, fire breath remains but instead of barbecuing people on the spot, perhaps add a random effect be that negative or just down right humorous such as : Turning someone into a random creature. Turning someone into a random monster. Teleport...

This is what could be considered as one of those, ideal world posts. There are many players from different era's of UOForever, some have played from the very beginning and some are relatively new. Throughout the many changes and stages, certain things have been implemented to cater for that...

That'd be a first. ;)

Oh shit, did I just say Europa? I actually meant UOG.... Hang on, there seems to be a new fail in the making, perhaps .. perhaps... Amazing eh, I just invented my own greatest fail, the fail of typing and it was for the world to see. Edgy edgy edgy... If life was a cliff edge and some folks...

To be on a relatively neutral ground, numbers do usually pick up towards winter time. It will however, be interesting to see how much of an increase we will get this time around. I don't condone what some of those members were up to and such, even the play style frustrated things somewhat, but...

The PVP was one thing, the numbers were another. PVP without numbers = more to complain about.

Strangely and with much contradiction, the PVP scene was very much alive when a certain guild was around.. Amazing how we cut off our nose to spite our face sometimes in life.. Guilty as charged.. Still meditating over this oversight...

Not one of the worse, but definitely memorable from a different perspective. Back in the early days of UOF , a majestic two story villa had finally came to its end of life. In danger of collapsing and situated central of a jungle on Fire Island west of Fire Temple, the property filled with love...

Technically change is needed regardless, be it an update to the wiki that states that talismans are usable in Player vs player combat or a change to the mechanics of how talismans interact between two or more competing combatants. Whichever way you look at it, change is needed in some form.

So it's settled then, something needs to be done and I think a poll is in order but there lies another problem...... We don't have a Deadpool around... @Shane What are your thoughts on all of this? There has been some pretty damn good feedback to this thread and quite civil. Come forth boss...